Sunday, August 28, 2011

Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

Mr Srinivasan (and all those who are focusing on technicality, constitutionality and other nitty-gritty),
I think you guys have not counted the number of zeros in the size of CWG or Spectrum scams. You have certainly not internalized the magnitude of problem the country is facing, because if you did, the outrage inside you would not allow you the luxury of discussion on the fine points of this agitation. It is like pointing fingers at the fireman who did not say hello to the property owner before starting to dowse the fire.
 
You guys need a serious reality check.
 
Those people whom you are accusing of not treating the flag well are the very reason why the Govt was forced to take Jan Lokpal proposal seriously (and by the way, as Anna Hazare has said, it is not just about Jan Lokpal Bill-- it is about functional democracy). The flag will not be of much value if the corruption at high places keeps on moving at the current pace
 
Regards,
Devendra Tripathi
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From: R Srinivasan <kamsri2005@yahoo.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
I agree.I saw some in Ramlila Maidan sleeping and sitting on the National Flag.Mass use of the national flag,practically appropriating it as the symbol of Anna's agitation will lead to misuse and disrespect.
R.Srinivasan

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, Naveen Johri <naveenjohri@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Naveen Johri <naveenjohri@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 9:10 PM

My response to a lawyer friendLet us not view  every thing  with legal technicalities.we have seen how the so called legal minds of govt ...sibal and PC, EM TY (manish tewari ) included, had screwed up the case and mis handled the situation.because of all this, eventually congress ended up with shit on their face All this could have been handled and solved with dignity and grace, with  a little display of statesmanshipRegarding National Flag, this is the national symbol, it denotes our existence as a nation, we live and die for for this...... it is this flag for which we shed our blood and life just for unfurling it on a enemy feature  during a conflict.\Every citizen should have the right to use, demonstrate, and display this national symbol 24x7x365. Yes any intentional disrespect should be dealt with seriously.In so called developed countries of the west, flags are displayed on cars, hoisted on house tops, even worn on clothing / head gears... there are no restrictions appreciate the positive impact of people's / anna's movement Why pick up the crumps when the cake is there to share,.... enjoy the feast Wg Cdr Johri
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:40 AM, R Srinivasan <kamsri2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
Anna Ha,teh bra nd ambassador  for Gandhi Cap which Gandhi himself abandoned,and his branded T Shirts has in a sense torpedoed the constitution.A case in the SupremeCourt after the lokpal bill of ANNA is passed will establish this,Kiran Bedi would have been the first to arrest him and prevent his gathering if in power as police officer has joined the band wagon .The indiscriminate use of the National Flag as if it is a party flag is in violation of the National Flag Act as it borders on disrespect.
The ultimate sufferer will be the poor lower level bureaucrat who will be an easy target and cannot defend himself. under the popular lokpal Bill
God Save the Country,
R.Srinivasan(Advocate)

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, jaiprakash  narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
To: humjanenge@googlegzare
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 10:09 AM

very good,I am anna,u r anna,ab to sara desh hai Anna.

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com>
Subject: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
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Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 8:37 AM

1. NO ONE denied MP & MLAs their "Exclusive" Right to make Rules & Laws.
IF they had done, WE wouldn't have this miserable Governance of the country.
 
2. Anna & or his team has NOT Usurped their rights.
 
3. By their DIS HONOURABLE TRACK RECORD, the parliamentarians have FORFEITED their right to be even be addressed as "Hon'able"
 
4. Anna is filling THE VACUME created by ABDICATION of Parliamentary duties by these "WORTHLESS" & the make a hue & cry of Democracy in Danger ?
 
CHORE KOTWAL KO DATE ? ? ?
 
5. LET US ALL STOP ADDRESSING THE CHORS & LOOTERS as Hon'able.
 
 
 
Thanks for your time.

Best Wishes.
 
Parvez Jamasji
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Sent: Friday, 26 August 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
Dear Mr. Rahul Gandhi:
In your speech today in parliament you said that Janlokpal bill in itself will not remove corruption.

Thats what we are also saying.  Thats why in addition to LP bill,

-- Election reforms wherein anyone who is charge sheeted should be barred from standing for elections

-- Revoke the Single Point Directive

-- Make CBI independent

-- Increase the number of judges 3 or five-fold as per Law Commission recommendations of many years ago

-- Suitable amendments to Evidence Act, CrPC, CPC, etc. to balance the rights of the aggrieved V/s the rights of the accused

-- Police reforms as per the orders of SC many years ago

--Withdrawal of the principle King Can Do No Wrong

-- Enact specific Law of Torts against the wrongs of the state and its agents

-- Etc.

Regards
Victor 

  
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