Re: [IAC#RG] lessons to BJP and Modi from Delhi elections

Hi,

Josh without Hosh is barbaric foolishness.

Hosh without Josh is useless lethargy.

This ninja word in this context was first used by yourself... about a year ago.

I have a major question over here, people on this list maybe excluding a few, except cribbing and finding facts what have done? Emailing in comfort of their retired houses/homes... I seriously think that the condition of current india is because earlier generation 1950-1970, never fought this system which was corrupt. Even today for guiding youth like me, people speak of pacification rather than motivation for me further.

Question of sanity comes only when group has strategy, strategy comes when you have vision.. the current vision of this group is just type... do not work for it... which is utterly shameful. I am hardly 28 years old but have utilized the knowledge present on this group for filing around 25 RTIs (one of the least) and shaming the directors or head honchos of public departments including tamil nadu police...  Fight these guys .. if you cannot fight shame them.. Shaming damages their morale for atleast 0.5% of their corrupt ego.

What I said is for people who understand that barking people seldom bites... I want all people to bite those who are attaching our country internally or externally, but then we bark when we need assistance or guidance or help in effective biting those responsible personnel.

This group has taught me many things so I will not say any further but I will like this group to be effective atleast 0.00001 % on corrupt governance. Atleast I will tell my grand children that I made a difference of 0.00001% in their nation.

Apology for any harsh words!!

Regards,

Hemant Kshirsagar

To acquire knowledge, one must study;

but to acquire wisdom, one must observe.
- Marilyn vos Savant

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Hemant

'Josh' and 'Hosh' are 2 different things.

I did not keep quiet in my youth. I was initiated into 'activism' by
late JP when I was barely a teenager in his final years, not because
of any quality then in me but due to my father. After that a few other
great souls have blessed me. So please learn what I am teaching you.

As an ninja individual "you" cannot "fight the system", and you should
not fight the system.
You can a) take advantage of the system, b)ride the system, c)observe
the system d)record the system ..e)shape the system. .

You cannot do this and "win" if you don't "know" the system and how it
is programmed / designed to work. Especially in the ways it is
designed to repel and expel intruders.

If you still cannot get the system to work, you must SMASH the system
so a better one can come up in its place. It goes without saying that
the Empire will strike back.

Finally 2 points about the purpose of the list

A) We provided a "safe" space for "sane" discussion.
B) We work to "preserve" whatever little sanity and hope there is
still left in the system.

Sarbajit

On 2/6/15, Hemant Kshirsagar <hemantkshirsagar01@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please every body why can't we stop our keybroad here and use it against
> the same thing as we are having difficulty in ?
>
> On this mail list I am seeing lately people of older generation who kept
> quiet during their youth and now are pointing masters.. They may not take
> actions.. Though very seldom. As you have time.. Why can't you guys simply
> fight with the system? You will fight in road with any other person but
> never against the system. Prove the system wrong, use your experience
> against the corrupt system for at least benefit of your grand children s.
>
> Anyone above.. Please tell me like a ninja who has all the information how
> about cracking on the government ? Murmuring on this mail list is useless.
>
> Truth always is red and red hurts eyes.. Sorry for harsh words used.
>
> Regards,
> HEMANT

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