It appears that by "office of CJI" you mean the staff / infrastructure and other paraphrenalia which keeps the CJI afloat. As an engineer from you know where, pls read my previous post on grammar / maths.
Office of Shailesh Gandhi <> Shailesh Gandhi's office.
The information is not held "by" such an office. It is held "on behalf of"/ "as function of" the concerned public authority which may either be the SC or the CJI (the post being a Constitutional one)
In the present case, the CJI contends (through the Registry) that the info with him is not part of the the SC records, and that his Office (note the capitalisation) ie. this aspect of his "post" is not covered under RTI Act.
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> > Subject: Re: [rti_india] Fwd: [Indiarti] CIC to approach SC as ICs refuse to work
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