Sunday, April 24, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] Why Santosh Hegde MUST quit !!!

Dear Anoop & all
Every member has a right to agree on an proposal or decline
it. You may like to debate on it, if you have your point in favour or
against it.
As such Roy Dada is also having the right to speak against
any member of the committee.

However you have expressed your opinion, that is good.

You are very much correct that these five members of Civil
Society are not holding any constitutional post nor they are aspiring
for one.
Justice Mr. Santosh Hegde served as Judge of Supreme Court
of India and is now Lok Ayuktha of Karnataka and due to retire soon.

Our only one point programme is CORRUPTION FREE INDIA.
SO LET THE COMMITTEE SUBMIT ITS DRAFT FOR JAN LOKPAL BILL
AND IT IS THE PARLIAMENT WHICH HAS TO PASS IT.
So till that time kindly keep restrain and pray that
effective Bill is ready to be put up before Parliament

I also agree with you that Mr. Shanti Bhushan has been
advocating a strong Lok Pal Bill for the past 40 years. He
understand the dynamics of both politics and also
law. Mr. Prashant Bhushan and also Santosh Hegde are other legal
luminaries. Added with social activists like Mr. Anna Hazare and Mr.
Arvind Kejriwal in the committee, we can atleast hope for a strong and
enforceable bill that would protect the interests of the citizens of
our nation.

So even if all the 10 members of committee are
dishonest or corrupt, it will have no impact on the draft Bill, for
which they have been assigned the job, because ultimately the
Parliament has to pass it.

So criticizing the draft committee members, who are only
preparing a draft Bill, will have no impact on the skill of Bhushan
duo or of other members of committee.

If they have done some crime in the past, they are liable to
be prosecuted by different agency/Police/CBI, at the appropriate time,
as law of the land provide., as no one is above the law.

So it is a different issue altogether and should not be
mingled with their job for drafting the Bill

Pranab Dada has also given green signal to the role of
committee drafting the Bill..
Dr JN Sharma
ADVOCATE/ HUMANRIGHTS ACTIVIST


On 4/24/11, S. Anoop Kumar <s.anoopkumar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Sarabjit Roy,
>
> I have been reading your messages which are mostly Anna bashing or
> bashing of the other draft committee members of the proposed Lok Pall
> Bill representing the civil society, that is us. Mr. Anna Hazare,
> Mr. Santosh Hegde, Mr. Arvind Kejriwal, Mr. Shashi Bhushan and Mr.
> Prashant Bhushan are only members of the committee drafting the
> proposed Lok Pal bill. They are neither offered any constitution
> post nor they are aspiring for one. Mr. Santosh Hegde served as
> Judge of Supreme Court of India and is now Lok Ayuktha of Karnataka
> and due to retire soon.
>
> It is a foregone conclusion that India, now considered as one of the
> most corrupt nations, needs a strong anti corruption law, the law
> which can be enforceable, swift, fast and result oriented. For which
> we need to have a strong bill. A deterrent in the first place. The
> bill which is devoid of any short comings and loop holes which would
> be conveniently exploited to their advantage by the mighty and
> powerful. In short, we do not need just another bill which is just
> seen or read on papers but remains absolutely unenforceable or
> powerless. The toothless tiger.
>
> Mr. Shashi Bhushan has been advocating a strong Lok Pal Bill for the
> past 40 years. He understand the dynamics of both politics and also
> law. Mr. Prashant Bhushan and also Santosh Hegde are other legal
> luminaries. Added with social activists like Mr. Anna Hazare and Mr.
> Arvind Kejriwal in the committee, we can atleast hope for a strong and
> enforceable bill that would protect the interests of the citizens of
> our nation.
>
> Instead of criticizing the draft committee members, and every other
> who is supporting the Lok Pal Bill, I wish you concentrate on the
> draft bill with constructive suggestions to make it effective and free
> from errors or legal loop holes, get it tabled before the parliament
> houses and also get it passed. This would be a great contribution
> from your side. To us as a nation and to our coming generations.
>
> Regards,
> S. Anoop Kumar.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 23, 6:22 pm, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Sankar
>>
>> As I have already asked the concerned Ministry, I need to know why say
>> Mr Shanti Bhushan or Mr Anna Hazare is "cleaner" than me. Or
>> conversely why I am "dirtier" / "blacker" than they are. It is only
>> when every clean and honest citizen of India starts formally demanding
>> to know these things (as we are entitled to demand to know in law)
>> that there will be transparency in public appointments and clean
>> people will be selected.
>>
>> Tomorrow if DoPT suggests Mr Shanti Bhushan or Mr Anna Hazare as
>> Chief Vigilance Commissioner should we accept this like little sheep ?
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Sankar Pani
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <sankarprasadp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > could u please suggest few names who do not have any allegation and are
>> > absolutely clean and perfect also have competency. It would be better in
>> > the
>> > interest of the nation if you have anything to the contents of the bill
>> > else
>> > will just frustrate the purpose of your dream of absolute corruption
>> > free
>> > nation.
>>
>> > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:43 AM, sarbajit roy <sroy...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> Your statements are grossly objectionable.
>>
>> >> 1) It is EASY to find competent people who are absolutely
>> >> incorruptible and without any credible allegations against them.
>>
>> >> 2) The issue is not about the LokPak Bill's contents or the fashion
>> >> it is brought about, BUT about the NEED for it in the first place.
>>
>> >> 3) Why should we the people of India settle for "RELATIVELY
>> >> LESS CORRUPT or CONTROVERSIAL PEOPLE" ??
>> >> You should reconsider the wisdom of statements you make in a
>> >> public forum.,
>>
>> >> Sarbajit
>>
>> >> On Apr 22, 8:56 am, Sankar Pani <sankarprasadp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > If we start finding faults with each and every person, then only god
>> >> > if
>> >> > any
>> >> > will be eligible in your scale to the Drafting committee.At the
>> >> > present
>> >> > juncture we can choose relatively less corrupt or less controversial
>> >> > people
>> >> > but never possible to find a person who do not have any such
>> >> > allegation.
>> >> > to
>> >> > me it seems that we have to accept the best in the existing committee
>> >> > and
>> >> > and should judge the objective of the committee.
>>
>> >> > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:14 AM, sarbajit roy <sroy...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > Dear Satishji
>>
>> >> > > For the same reason that a mongoose wants to kill a snake.
>>
>> >> > > Sarbajit
>>
>> >> > > On Apr 22, 8:27 am, Satish Kumar Kapoor <kapoorsat...@yahoo.com>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > Dear Sarbajit
>>
>> >> > > > Why u want to kill drafting committee?
>>
>> >> > > > S.K.Kapoor
>>
>> >> > > > ________________________________
>> >> > > > sense ?
>>
>> >> > --
>> >> > Sankar Prasad Pani
>> >> > A-70, Sahidnagar, Bhubaneswar, Orissa
>> >> > India
>> >> > PIN-751007
>> >> > Cell- 9437279278http://environmentalrights-sankar.blogspot.com/
>>
>> > --
>> > Sankar Prasad Pani
>> > A-70, Sahidnagar, Bhubaneswar, Orissa
>> > India
>> > PIN-751007
>> > Cell- 9437279278
>> >http://environmentalrights-sankar.blogspot.com/

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