Friday, September 30, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] RTI reply - a new trend

That is the Reason i Have Contened that the PIO is not at all delegated , relgated nor has discretionary powers to Verify one's Citizenship . He is Actually Userping the powers of the Legislation . He Does not have any vested powers to verify one's Bonafides .
I Gor sucess when the PIO from LIC Blore Did the Same "doubting tom" Work when i Made another RTI to his Admin asking Them How this Person was recurited when he has Provided Proof of his Citizenship and a Copy was sent that person .
I Have Learnt through Various Sources that Certain Persons Who are basically "only Trainers" have Given a Sermon that This ascpet Can Be Quired by an PIO . However They are ignoring one more Clause in the Act 21 Protection of an act done /carried in good faith .
The Best way to Tackle this Make several RTI to DoPT

N vikramsimha , KRIA Koota , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.

--- On Sat, 1/10/11, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI reply - a new trend
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 1 October, 2011, 6:31 AM

Friend,  Section 6(2) of the RTI ACt is herewith reproduced:

(2)

 "

An applicant making request for information shall not be required to give any reason for requesting the information or any other personal details except those that may be necessary for contacting him.".

Section 3 of the Act is only a directive to the concerned authorities how and in what form etc., to prepare and keep the information of their day to day activities and does not enable them to  ask any question whatsoever.  It only emphasises the duty of the State towrds the Citizens.   Neither the object of this Law nor the provisions of this section/sub-section authorises the State, to verify who is the applicant.   If the authorities suspect the bonafides or the information sought is of such serious nature, they have every possibility of verifying the citizenship of the applicant through the Police/CCB , CBI, Defence or other agencies who are exclusively meant for it, if the information asked for is protected or prohibited under the RTI Act.   30 days time limit provided for the authorities to give you the information.  If u do not get the information in 30 days, you hae the right to complaint to the Informatin Commissioner deeming that this authority has refused to give u the information and request to pemalise them according to the RTI Act.  However, if the Oil company needs to verify your citizenship, they can separately take it up through authorised agencies without asking you for any proof.  regards,   dwarakanthdm


 
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Mathre Rangarajan <rangajan@yahoo.com> wrote:
M. Rangarajan,
(retired Group General Manager ONGC)
B 2 – 301, SRIRAM SPANDHANA,
Chellaghatta village,
Bangalore – 560037.
Phone: 25227955, mobile 9945091581
Dated 20th September 2011
 
Dear friends / RTI activists,
 
I asked for some information from M/s Chennai Petroleum Corporation Ltd, a Government of India Undertaking under Ministry of Petroleum under RTI Act. I am enclosing copy of letter for information of all.
 
The gist of letter is as followes:
 
I quote:
 
In compliance with Sec 3 of Right to Information Act 2005, we request you to kindly send us the proof for citizenship like a copy of Election Identity Card, or a copy of tje Passport issued by Govt. of India or any document duly attested by a Notory Public / Executive magistrate to eable us to procede further.
 
Unquote.
 
I have sought information from many Cental Government Department, State Government Departments, and Public Sector Undertaking etc and so for none .have asked for proof of my Citizenship. This appear to be uncalled for and illigal new trend.
 
I would very much appreciate some advise - how should I procede further. 
 
warm regards / rangarajan

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