It is good to discuss the requirement to keep our farmers healthy and well compensated. They should no more be used as 'cannon fodder' to win votes. They are the symbol of our 'common man'. Furthermore, I might suggest that Kiran Bedi not be kicked again and again. She has got her dues for denigrating Arvind Kejriwal, and hopefully learnt her lesson and retires from politics. The latest series by The Economic Times on 100 days of the Modi government culminating with a special edition on 26th May shows that the country is moving well and the PM has now formed a close group to monitor progress personally. We Indians are capable people and with the present proper guidance and correct actions will move positively.--Hirak.
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On Thu, 7/5/15, Satish Kumar Kapoor <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPORTANT: IAC PUBLIC NOTICE re: Kiran Bedi
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Date: Thursday, 7 May, 2015, 1:55 PM
Besides
solutions suggested in this post, most important thing is
that farmers get fair price of their produce based on actual
input cost and Govt starts Corps insurance, premium of
insurance should be shared by Central Govt, Concerned state
and farmers equally, in case of natural climaty , farmers
instead of looking at Govt, get money from
insurance
S.K.Kapoor
On Thursday, May 7,
2015 11:45 AM, Pranab Kumar Chakravarty
<pranabkumar.chakravarty@gmail.com> wrote:
Some permanent
solution should be found to mitigate sufferings of farmers
who are from time
immemorial dependent on Arun & Barun. There is no
guarantee how Arun and
Barun will behave during harvesting seasons.
Only monetary
assistance cannot be the permanent solution. Most of the
rivers are drying up.
.So, there is a limit on providing or extending irrigation
facilities. Due to
manifold use of water, most of the states are facing water
shortage. From Tibet,
occupied by China, several snow fed rivers including the
mighty Brahmaputra flow
to India's northeast .But China is building barrages on
the rivers in its
occupied territories causing water shortage in the region.
We all know what is
happening in our southern states facing water shortage and
no state is prepared
to share water with others for obvious reason.
The water
dispute between Haryana and Punjab is sub judice both of
them plead inability of
sharing water. Delhi is dependent for water on Haryana and
UP, both basically
agrarian states. What I mean to emphasise is that there will
be shortage of
water, the basic prerequisite for agriculture operation in
all states. Water
cannot be generated unlike electricity.
Therefore,
my suggestion is that our agriculture scientists should
evolve less and less
water dependent crops through R & D.Meanwhile, we should
change our food habits
by taking less and less products made of rice and wheat. We
know that for
growing wheat and rice, farmers need substantial and timely
rainfall or
irrigation which no one can guarantee to the farming
community. We should also
avoid wasting water and use judiciously whatever water is
available treating it
as the gift sent by PARAMESHWAR
On 6 May 2015 at
12:01, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
Agree with you Shri Ahuja ji.
The farmers need money for daily use.Sitting
on a piece of land is old story with hardly any future.Yes
it is good for holding on to, but that is it.The poor fellow
can not even sustain his family on it.And we all know large
land holdings are with big landlords by now.
We need to give them jobs.
And this govt job scenario needs a befitting end..
Let it be good paying,working jobs rather
than getting paid for doing less.
Regards to all.
On 6 May 2015 11:38,
"Ashok Ahuja" <ashokahuja58@gmail.com>
wrote:
Mr. Gaur,Thank
you. Why is a farmer wanting his sons to take up Govt.
Jobs. One of the reasons could be that the land
holding he has will not be able to sustain the extended
family,the other could be that he is looking for financial
security. In Govt jobs whatever happens they will keep
getting the security associated with Gov. Jobs. The question
is whether Govt. Is able to provide jobs to such large
population. Answer is NO. This is where private/ public
sector comes in.look at data world over what percentage of
the jobs provided by the Govt vs the private sector. Private
sector clearly wins.Even in GDP higher share is of private
than Govt. Industry,therefore, is very
important.RegardsA.Ahuja
Sent from my iPad
On May 4, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Mr. Ahuja
Regarding jobs I forgot to mention some facts which you will
know if you are familiar with farming community. Indian
farmer would like to send one of his sons to the army. The
second son to the police whether it is central or state
police. The third one if
the son is we'll educated he will become a teacher or a
lecturer in college. In short his preference will be a govt
or state job.
Not a job in a private co. If he can help. We have many army
veterans with rural background who can further clarify
Regds jkgaur
On 3 May 2015 11:08, Ashok Ahuja <ashokahuja58@gmail.com>
wrote:
Mr. Gaur,
This is the first note I am writing because it pained
me to see that the so called intelligensia fighting for the
wrong things rather than going deep into the reasons of the
decay and correcting them.
the land holding of a poor farmer,I am talking
poor farmer, on average is less than few acre and the no. Of
children is three or more. With this land holding they are
unable to meet their minimum needs of food and clothing,
forget about educating the
children,their marriages or some emergency requirements.
What will be the status if the land piece is further divided
amongst the children. They will have no option but to sell
the land to the money lenders and become criminals/live on
Govt. Doles like MNREGA
or such govt sponsored scheme,because of which we, rather
than making them self respecting proud Indians, we are
making them beggars, thieves,criminals. As you are well
aware even the doles given by the Govt. Do not reach the
intended beneficiaries. By these
schemes the govt encourages infrastructure which is
thoroughly inefficient and corrupt.
By all means agriculture should be given the highest
importance but at the same time job creation is also equally
important,and for that industrialisation is the only way.
For that land mass is needed, world class infrastructure is
required. Fair compensation
for the acquired land must be given to the farmers. Their
rehabilitation by providing jobs to them and their children
should be ensured. It should also be ensured that the
purpose for which the land is acquired is used for that
only.
Further Our agricultural output per unit of land mass
is one third or less of the developed countries output. This
is where our efforts should be put ,if we really want to
help farmers.
Regards
Ashok
Sent from my iPad
On May 2, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com>
wrote:
2/5/15
We all know 'Make in India' is not for Agriculture
and farm products. You dont need foreign technology or
manpower to make storage silos for rotting grains or cold
storages for farm produce.
We all know Land acquisition amendmentBill 2015 is not
for farmers but corporates unless the Govt. makes available
data of land acquired since 1947 for various
purposes-Defence Projects, Public Sector undertakings, roads
,irregation , Special Economic
zones and Industrial usages. How much of the acquired land
is used profitably and how much lying unused. Specifically I
give an example of land alloted to Ind ian Agril. Research
Insitute(IARI) by Pandit Nehru Govt. after independence.
Today it is in the heart
of New Delhi. Now Agril research is practically in private
hands. So also the land acquired by various state Govt. as
State Farms. Are these really helping farmers in
making the improved seeds available, raise
productivity and other related issues of farmers.
2. Future of In dian Agriculture is very bleak. Si nce
liberalisation, the Govt. approach is to treat agriculture
as an industry. The figures are quoted to show that its
contribution in GDP is less than 20% and the rate of growth
is 2% as compared to industries
and services. But nobody is prepared to help the farmer
except lip service. If the Govt. creates conditions that a
farmer,s son has to migrate to the city to get a job, what
hope there is for the future of Agriculture. Agriculture in
India cannot be Agri.
in US or Europe.
Agricuture is a back breaking activity. Food security
ceased to be important after the green revolution of 70,s.
With the climate change and Govt. policy we are heading to a
bleak future for farming community-the backbone of rural
India.
JKGaur
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 12:03:19 +0530
From: raviforjustice@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMPORTANT: IAC PUBLIC NOTICE re: Kiran
Bedi
That is a moving response. But will the
policy makers listen. I am all for modi's make in India
so long as it is for, and only for, agricultural and farm
products.
regards n bw
ravi
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 4:02 PM, ADV. SUDHA GANDHI
<advsudhagandhi@gmail.com>
wrote:
presently for God sake and for true love for our country
all
politician should first think about situation and condition
of our
Indian farmers without playing politics otherwise young
generation
will not forgive any politician. If FARMERS survive then
only people
of India will get sufficient food to eat.
Without nutritious and
quality food they is no sense in any kind of progress in our
life.
Simple living and high thinking IS OUR COUNTRY'S
spirit Moreover it
should be think of that FARMERS children will get free
education
facility. Interest free loan for marriage of their
daughters. There
should be some concrete plan framed by government in
such a way that
farmers get monitory help by way of depositing direct fund
in their
account at the worst time in their life when there is no
rain or more
rainfall damaging the crops, vegetables, fruits, cotton etc.
Even
people at large in India wants to help to farmers by paying
something
from their salary can directly deposit in their account as a
message
to farmers that we all Indian are your brothers and sisters
to help
you in your worst days of your life. Even many Industrialist
and
Corporate offices can help by compulsorily appointing
permanently in
Job farmers' children in their organization. It is also
necessary that
farmers locality should also developed by roads, busroute
and small
railways accompanying by small scale industry and wholesale
markets
hospitals, Agricultural and polytechnic colleges, Police
station,
around them as Modi government is explaining to
People and farmers
at large. Every Indian's duty to protect poor
farmers by help them
out in all possible manner. Kishan vikas patra
scheme should be
encouraged IN SUCH A WAY that money UP TO
TWO LAKHS ONLY EVERY
YEAR will become double in six years and Tex rebate
will be full so
that people of India mainly middle class service people rush
to save
their money in KISHAN VIKAS PATRA. MIDDLE
CLASS SERVICE PEOPLE WILL
BE BENEFITED AND WILL HAPPY,
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear Subscribers
>
> The media and Justice Katju are saying yesterday what
we said a week
> earlier. Dumping Kiran Bedi now will not improve
BJP's fortunes,
> although the polls are wrong and 2 important
traditional Congress vote
> banks are still undecided and game is still open for
BJP.
>
> It is all very well for Justice Katju, and I am not his
friend on
> Facebook, to fight for release of Sadhvi Pragya. On
this list, IAC had
> also come round that Dr. Subramaniam Swamy's public
appeals to Justice
> Katju and others in 2013 to release Sadhvi Pragya
should be taken very
> seriously in Government and wonderment why Govt was not
taking action.
>
> In the same vein as Dr. Subramaniam Swamy, I also
wonder why this
> present Government is so fixated on punishing one of
our nation's
> finest intellectual minds, who could be a great asset
to India in our
> common national quest to achieve our destined purpose
on the world
> platform, and as rapidly as possible.
>
> Accordingly, I hope that someone on high remembers
KOBAD GHANDY, who
> like me attended St. Xavier's College Mumbai and
which institution I
> suppose greatly shaped the choices we separately made
in life.
>
> I can disclose now that late JaiPrakash Narain ji
"JP" privately had
> greatly approved my father's decision to educate me
at Jesuit
> institutions in the English language, saying that is
what is needed
> for the new India so that the old India could be
preserved. My father
> was in the Hindu Hostel at Benares/kashi BHU and with
Pandit Madan
> Mohan Malviya's Independence agitation and even
lost a year because of
> it.
>
> PS: I am writing in my personal capacity based on
Justice Katju's
> appeal which somebody posted to my Facebook wall, and
Ghandy's
> writings - available here for anyone interested.
> http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/auteur532.html
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 1/27/15, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Dear Friends
>>
>> On 12 January BJP had a 16 percent vote share lead
over AAP -
>> something like 48% to 32% with Congress at 12%.
But, as of now AAP has
>> pulled sharply ahead and its 39% AAP to 34% BJP
with 18% to Congress
>> for the 70% steady voters. These are HRA's
latest numbers -
>> discounting the swing / mercenary vote banks and
uncommitted voters
>> who are about 30%. and essentially unpredictable
till the last moment.
>>
>> What we are also seeing is that Kiran Bedi's
entry has done 2 things,
>> a massive 28% drop in "committed" BJP
voters who are tending to
>> support AAP publicly but also a large number who
are prepared to
>> support Congress for cash privately. Of these the
BJP's UP-Biharis at
>> about 16% are gravitating mostly to AAP and the
BJP's disgruntled
>> Punjabis about 12% mostly to Congress. AAP has also
lost 4% of its
>> previous 32% to Congress. The uncommitted voters
are mainly
>> gravitating to BJP as AAP is not able to
convert uncommitted voters
>> at last moment and AAP is last choice for them as
Congress is still #2
>> choice after BJP for these.
>>
>> The game is still very open and as d-day approaches
huge deals and all
>> kinds of muck is going to be in play.
>>
>> Enjoy
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>
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