Mr Sarbajit
One with common sense can easily see that Bernard Shaw is right and Samuel Johnson is wrong. Either he doesn't know what patriotism means or he has made patriots of scoundrels!
Any two wrongs may not make a right but then there are two things: the first wrong has be acknowledged and corrected and secondly, sometimes atleast two wrongs do make a right!
Btw, now that you are so vociferous about rights and wrongs, may I know what you and your org has been doing in the case of victims of Bhopal and 1984 riots, just to quote two well known cases of human rights violations in the history of such violations all over the world?
ravi
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 2:05 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Major (Retd.) Ravi
My quotes are exactly as stated and without distortions. Since you
have confined yourself to only one of my cited quotes "Patriotism is
the last refuge of scoundrels" and dismissed the others with sweeping
generalisations, let me respond as follows,
The phrase "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels" is attributed
to Samuel Johnson (b. 1709 - d. 1784), whereas the phrase "Politics is
the last refuge of scoundrels" is attributed to George Bernard Shaw
(b.1856 – d. 1950). A difference of approx. 150 years, and it is
crystal clear which phrase came first.
Hence your argument is as fundamentally flawed as the present OROP demand.
Unfortunately, a completely misguided section of publicity and
politically inclined veterans are intent upon permanently damaging
India's FUTURE Armed Forces (and its fighting capabilities) with their
PAST demands. I don't want to elaborate on this in the present
surcharged environment because most veterans posting here are not
prepared for balanced dialogue with PATRIOTS like ourselves on FACTS.
PS: Many frauds were played on our 'faujis' over the decades, but 2
wrongs do not make a right.
Sarbajit
On 9/30/15, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sarbajit
>
> You can add popular names to distorted quotes to fool people and as it is
> truly said, you can fool all the people for some time and some people for
> all the time but not all the people for all the time.
>
> For your kind information it is not patriotism but politics that was said
> to be last refuge of a scoundrel from which another quotable quote has
> followed: those who dismiss politics as the last refuge of a scoundrel are
> bound to be ruled by scoundrels!
>
> Anyhow there is no need to dispute the other quotes as the lies in them are
> evident from the basic definition of patriotism.
>
> ravi
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Major Ravi
>>
>> I have no pretensions to being an intellectual. The quotes are from
>> greater minds.
>>
>> "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" is attributed to Samuel
>> Johnson
>>
>> "Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious" to Oscar Wilde
>>
>> "Patriotism is the egg from which wars are hatched" to Guy De Maupassant
>>
>> "Patriot : the fellow who hollers the loudest without knowing what he is
>> hollering about" - Mark Twain
>>
>> "A nation is a society deluded about its ancestry and united in its
>> hatred
>> of its neighbours" - William Ralph Inge
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
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