Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: OROP

Dear Veterans

There are many issues and injustices done to Armed Forces since Independence. We can start fighting on all issued together. We are taking up one issue at a time so that all energies can be directed to the issue. Present issue is OROP and all of us are fully concentrating on its fulfillment as per approved definition. 

 

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OROP is our right. Dilution in OROP will NOT be accepted.

 

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From: shriram singh <ssr.singh@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Cc: raghwendra <col.raghu@rediffmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2015 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: OROP

Dear Sir,

Pl enlighten whether there should be any compensation for forced early retirements of Service personnel or it is a non issue.  Is there any way to undo the wrongs done to Services during 1973 when their pensionary benefits were brought down from 70 to 50 percent.

Over simplification and generalisation may not be the solution. Inequity hurts more than insufficiency.

Best wishes and regards.

SR

On 7 Oct 2015 01:56, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Col Nauni,

If you play the patriotism card with us to make your case we can easily trump with corruption and politicised Army cards

I can't possibly disagree with your list of 'shaheeds' and what the institution of the Army stand for.. It is the same concern for the INSTITUTION that causes me to speak out against the spiraling RAT-RACE for pensions encapsulated by OROP.

Do you not  sense that future govts will be so overwhelmed by burgeoning pension payments to veterans that they will be forced to CUT DOWN on the FUTURE manpower. Doesn't anybody teach basic maths like 1+1<>3 in the Army - or the laws of EXPONENTIATION?

Its the same kind of problem Japan faced with its pension scheme, the contributions from young workers in a highly automated robotised environment were insufficient for payments to retireees who were living longer and longer. The pension contributions from the young grew so large that employers could not afford to keep so many permanent employees leading to massive job cutbacks and increasing automation. Japan consequently had a huge population of unemployed youth caused by its bloated social security system skewed to keep the old alive.

Are faujis so self-centred nowadays that they can't see that this OROP agitation is inspired by vested interests who want to whittle down India's standing army and its biggest asset -- our soldiers. Have you ever wondered that Mr. Anil Ambani is now being encouraged to enter Defence production after mucking up every almost business he had turned his hand to ?

Beyond Col Ketchup I could have equally cited lesser known names like Brig/Maj.Gen/Lt.Gen S.K.Sahni who got promoted thrice using highly litigative tactics in Delhi High Court and misled many officers like Lt.Gen.Kishan Pal to recommend him as a jolly good fellow. And what to speak of Lt.Gen Dahiya who accused Gen Sahni of being out to fix him as tit-for-tat.

And how about Gen V.K Singh who supposedly tried to fix Gen DS Suhaag to ensure the line of succession for his own daughter's father-in-law Gen A.K.Singh to be next COAS ?

Anyone reading the judgments of service matters and CoIs for Armed forces will be amazed at the lengths "you people" will go to to get promoted to the General staff.

And how is it that Gen VK Singh never objected that Admiral Ramdas and other foreign financed veterans interceded on his behalf on the D-o-B issue. As far as we are concerned the whole bloody lot on both sides at the top were equally corrupt and selfish when it comes for ensuring "their" lines of succession and their pensions.

PS: I am sure that you also recall the insufferable Gen B.M Kaul and his forward policy 'qua' China which caused 1962 and so much loss of life, prestige and territory.

In such light  do you disagree that there should be a total separation of Army and politicians, and the highly politicised Generals and Admirals should be roundly denounced from within the services ? Do you not also agree that the procedure for selection of the service chiefs must be foolproof and ensure their autonomy and integrity ?

Sarbajit

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