RE: [rti_india] Re: DoPT OM on the kinds of fee chargeable under Section 7(3) of the RTI Act in

Thursday, June 3, 2010

RE: [rti_india] Re: DoPT OM on the kinds of fee chargeable under Section 7(3) of the RTI Act in

Dear Sarbajit,

I think self-moderation includes abstinence from using words of abuse such as the one you have repeatedly used in this email chain and others as well. I am part of NCPRI and I do not think anybody there deserves to be called by that name. Nobody deserves to be addressed in that manner. You would do us all so much more good by sticking to polite expression of your views.

Thanks

Venkat

From: rti_india@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rti_india@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sarbajitr
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 7:11 PM
To: rti_india@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rti_india] Re: DoPT OM on the kinds of fee chargeable under Section 7(3) of the RTI Act in

Dear Bhaskar

1) You are absolutely correct that I am nobody to ask why you
file so many RTIs.

2) You are however incorrect when you impute that I have called YOU a 'harami'.

3) You are also incorrect by imputing that I have a personal grudge against Shailesh Gandhi. Mr Gandhi is now a public servant. It is not an offence to honestly criticise his performance as a public servant or the decisions / reasonings he delivers- it is one of the 10 allowable exemptions So if I say that Shailesh Gandhi is a retard because he does not know the difference between "benches" and "offices" I have every right to say so and so do you.

4) In so far as NCPRI is concerned, the position is very well stated.
This group, of which I am (one of) the Moderator(s), is for CITIZENS. It is not for 'harami's who claim to be representing citizens ("NGOs"). Every citizen member here (incl. you) is allowed to freely post essentially without moderation / censorship and the results are publicly viewable across the globe in Real Time. I doubt if you can name me any comparable RTI group which allows the same facility. As Moderator I have set up a fully automated rule based Yahoo filter which weeds out posts which would disturb our group members. The criteria is known to everyone here. For example Mr M.K.Singhal of
Ghaziabad's posts are not weeded out once he has self moderated
his posting to our group

5) My message to everyone these days is to "self moderate" their
RTIing. Give other people a chance. RTIing becomes an addiction for some people usually the frustrated people. No RTI addict will admit
that he is high on this drug. There are also so many RTI pushers
to keep users hooked on RTI to feed off them (vampires).

6) Finally, on NCPRI, does NCPRI have even 1 internet forum where non-members can openly interact with them ? Like any cults they
know they can only get away with their brainwashing behind closed
doors and with a chorus of addicted users.

Sarbajit

--- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com, Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Sarbajit,
>
> Your are nobody to ask me why I have filed 350 applications, this statement
> I am not giving with anger for your eagered enquiry. Nor I am interested to
> give explanations here to you and to the board.
>
> Have you imagined the reason for the non informatory situation just because
> of MISUSE OF POWER SEAT BY bureaucracy/politicians who may be termed as
> NAMAK HARAMS for information which was not shared, so RTI came in to
> existance. Even even today Section 4 is not full filled. Though there is no
> necessary to say here, just for your information I have not filed a single
> application for personal matters. All the information I take, eighther I do
> the Work Social Audit or try to change the system of record maintenance by
> suggestions. Regarding blocking up the information commissions i have
> appealed to Information commsiions only for two cases, rest as i said
> information i procured from public authority with persuation. I generally
> call for departmental enquiry with in the system if information not given by
> officers as RTI is work rule..
>
> It is the Information Commissions which is not doing the clearance of
> appeals, you may have your own opinion about Mr Shailesh Gandhi, for our
> group we feel he has shown the best performance, your message show a feeling
> of personal grudge against Mr. Shailesh Gandhi, NCPRI etc, so you are in
> habit doing round and round and bringing his name/NCPRI but we are not
> worried of your this habit but as we also consider you of emenace knowledge
> and appreciate. Though we all have knowledge I thank you for filling more
> by sharing knowledge from your comments on the board
>
> People like us who you are calling as haramis also campaign RTI in trains
> when we travel long distance and train the passengers in trains for RTI and
> also see that the contractors who supply food in trains are brought books we
> have done this many a times. People like us who are called haramis by you
> try our level best to see that contractors are penalised for non
> performance and so on. So we are really haramis for the people who fool the
> country and citizens.
>
> I generally post very less on the board.
>
> Thanks for appreciation and I also appreciate Mr. Shailesh Gandhi if he has
> filed 800 application under RTI before becomming IC
>
> Yours in service for RTI,
>
> Bhaskar Prabhu
> Convenor
> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:48 AM, sarbajitr <sroy1947@...> wrote:
>