RE: [HumJanenge] "Right to service" legislature in bihar by nitish kumar

Dear sir
  I agree with you about the blame game and  doing nothing for the poor. However, there is a silver lining on the other side.Take for example, the green revolution in Haryana when Bansilal was the agricultural minister. Admin showed that bringing water to his constituency(BHIWANI) was not economically feasible. However, after going throug teething problems, He succeded in that and today, we have green revolution in BHIWANI. Another example is the setting up of AEET vs CSIR Labs. Former, first makes the lab and then findout the appropriayte people for the ab. IN  AEET,(BHABHA's theory), peoples are first selected and then, lab is m,ade around that. In  my view, there is no harm to try Bihar"s formula for RTS. WE hope that we will succeed. There is no harm in trying a new thing which may beuseful in future. Let us have optimistic approach.
Dr N C Jain
29-12-10 

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From: haridgoyal@hotmail.com
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com; j_nc@hotmail.com
CC: rtidwarka@yahoo.co.in
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] "Right to service" legislature in bihar by nitish kumar
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 20:10:47 +0530

Dear Dr. Jain,
 
We wish certain things and convey our ideas to all who exchange ideas but certainly not we expect all to understand and appreciate.
 
Now about RTS in Bihar. We should appreciate efforts of Shri Nitish Kumar who has brought forward the concept of "DEVELOPMENT"
in place of "GROWTH";  when the students of economics like me know that social engineering has completely or to a large extent has failed   
in India.
 
i Know governance in Bihar sufficinetly well since the days I was Counsellor for the IAS probationers of Bihar State in 1982 and 1983
in the LBS National Academy of Administration, Mussoorie. Later on, I was asked to conduct a concurrent evaluation study of Poverty Alleviation
Programmes funded by the Central Government in Chhapra district of Bihar (Lalu Prasad's constituency) during the 15 years of loot period
in year of 2000. My report published by Planning Commission showed that not even one paisa out of one rupee reached the BPL targetted
groups. Development v/s Growth need all round appreciation but four decades old this system which believes in BLAME GAME only to keep
'KURSI' at any cost will not do. God may help the voiceless millions of REAL India.
 
Wish you a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR.  
 
Best regards,
 
Hari Goyal 
(Dr. Hari Dev Goyal) 
Indian Economic Service (1968 Batch)
28.12.2010
 


 

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From: j_nc@hotmail.com
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] "Right to service" legislature in bihar by nitish kumar
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 06:02:29 +0000

I donot agree. RTS should be seperate and not mixed with RTI. RTI only gives information whereas RTS should provide service.
DR N C Jain
27-12-10
 
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 21:10:54 +0530
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] "Right to service" legislature in bihar by nitish kumar
> From: anonsharma@yahoo.com
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> TO MEMBERS
>
> Right to service proposed in Bihar is only a subset of section 4 RTI
> ACT which reqquires public authorities to publish norms for its
> functioning.
>
> Right to service ACT may only add some penalties for non compliance to
> these norms already required by RTI ACT, such as time to issue birth
> certificate, police verification for passport etc. and make it
> enforceable
>
> S D Sharma
>
> From: Ajay Dubey <ajay20dubey@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> dear ravi ji
>
> i will try to arrange it
> thanks
>
> ajay
>
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Dear Mr Dubey
> >
> > Can we have a copy of the act if you have it in digital form?
> >
> > regards n bw
> >
> > ravi
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Ajay Dubey <ajay20dubey@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> dear friends
> >>
> >> madhya pradesh govt has already introduced this kind of law in oct 2010
> >> which is known as mp public service gurantee act 2010.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> ajay dubey
> >> 09893094043
> >> bhopal mp
> >>