Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

Sir,

Against common perception of blackmailing, time consuming, RTI applications are with a simple purpose to get rid of difficulties as this is the only Act (I understand) where the time is fixed, and reply is made compulsory (though not being abiding by PIO's).

At state level problems are of such gravity that, people sitting in Delhi simply can not understand them. I read somewhere a story that Once people of England demanded loaf of bread from queen, she astonished and replied why don't you eat cake instead of bread. She simply failed to understand that she had so heavily taxed the citizens that they were were unable to buy bread even. How could they think of cake.

The main problem lies in understanding of problems. Weak & wealthy, literate & illiterate have different problems and different solutions. But once they are handled by the same person. Simply the person fails to understand. (Legends like Pt. Bhimsen Joshi, Jagjit Singh, Bhupen Hazarika, Shammi Kapoor and Dev Anand who left us this year would be shedding tears in heaven watching the whole nation grooving to Kolaveri Di, Ooh-la-la and Jalebi bai and people are making money here just other side of coin).

Regards

Trivendra

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From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2012 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

I have on several occasions condemned filing RTI applications without any purpose and do so again.  Such acts will defame the Act and give a handle to RTI baiters to beat the RTI Act  with this baton. All right spirited persons should oppose and discourage attempts to burden the govt. with RTI with ill intentions and for blackmailing the PIO.  After all govt. is running with the money paid by citizens as taxes and the time of the staff should not be wasted. 

However, it is difficult to prove that the information sought is not with good intentions and is merely for the purpose to harass the PIO or Public Authority.  PIOs and PAs will say that most of the applications are for blackmailing them.  For them, all the applications are vexetious and infrotuous but many such applications have unearthed many scams including 2G, correspondence between Finance and Home Ministers on 2G allocation and on many issues.

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From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers

Dear Mr Gupta,

My heading was "fair comment", and Mr Prabhu has appreciated it (and
the spirit it was made). Mr Prabhu's reply has also been fully
circulated to all concerned by me.

The "reality" is that in the law of India (such as IPC) if any one
(say Mr. "A") blackmails / extorts for a contravention by say Mr "B",
then Mr "A" is to be penalised (and not Mr "B").

Mr Prabhu continues to state that no, no first punish Mr. B then go
after Mr. A. It is RTI activists like these who are murdering RTI Act
by misusing RTI for a purpose it was not intended. RTI is not a
primary tool / weapon to be used to "fight" corruption. As the news
article states it is these RTI PARASITES who file multiple coordinated
frivolous RTIs in vexatious manner who are being (rightly) prosecuted
/ targeted by the State.

Sarbajit

On 1/7/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> The heading "Mr. Bhasker Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers" is in bad taste
> and far from reality.
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:10 PM
> Subject: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu
> <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Sarbajit,
>>
>>Thanks for twisting the issue and appreciate your way of coercive black
>> mailing. Any way we both are seasoned enough to face each other. Atleast
>> now you are less using the word "Ha..mi".  I also know you are expecting
>> for me to respond as we had not talked or exchanged mails.
>>
> I stand by what I have said if there is black then there may be black mail
> by black sheep RTI users. Any applicant when he asks for information and if
> he finds wrong doing then some may see that action is taken but miniscule
> use the information other wise, let the authority take action and also
> correct the wrong doing done either by predecessor or by current officers by
> demolitions of illegal matters or any remedial actions to keep it as per to
> law of the land and also parallely investigate the matter if the matter
> concerns the black mailing by the applicant, and i don't think anything
> wrong in my thought, may be it is some thing different to your mind having
> twisting nature.
>>
>>I always say if any body wants to be stronger with intelligence for turning
>> the issues like inserting sugarcane by twisting it in sugarcane crusher
>> then learn from Mr Sarbajit the
>>
>>It was a very wide  from you better next time
>>
>>Not a single authority is able to show any officer to be victim of
>> blackmailing. It is the builder who is sowing seeds of complaints through
>> the officers who are corrupt, who don't want to take action on wrong
>> doings by the builders.
>>
>>Why leave or allow the wrong things to happen so as to create any
>> opportunity for black mails.
>>
>>Such exchange of emails will make me stronger and happy to get doses from
>> you.
>>
>>Any way do you know anybody committed, to be a part of work social audit
>> who is in civil engineering side ?
>>
>
> Though I have not listed myself in the group that you have enlisted me, I
> cannot post it there so post on my behalf the message.
>
>
>>Thanks Sarbajit.
>>
>>Yours in service of RTI
>>
>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-cops-to-crack-whip-on-rti-blackmailers_1633390
>>>
>>>A leading newspaper has quoted Mr Bhaskar Prabhu as saying the following
>>> "The police should investigate which information has been sought. If
> found worthy, action should be taken against the authority concerned
> before punishing blackmailer."
>>>
>>>The DNA article details several tricks used by RTI blackmailers whom Mr
>>> Prabhu is defending
>>>
>>--
>>Yours in service of RTI
>>
>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>9892102424
>>
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>
> --
> Yours in service of RTI
>
> Bhaskar Prabhu
> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
> 9892102424
>
> Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP_Lx1HSvDI
>
>
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>
> https://sites.google.com/site/bhaskarprabhubmc195
>
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