Dear Sh Atri,
Thanks.Wish you the same.
Col Dharma
> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 15:49:45 +0530
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> From: rkatri1@gmail.com
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
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> Thats True Col.Dharmadhikari,
> Wishing you all a very happy new year.
> R.K.Atri
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> On 1/1/12, KRANTIKUMAR DHARMADHIKARY <krdharma@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > Dear Sh Jasvir,Thanks.Ea kaur Eak Garah hotey haiCol Dharma
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> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RE: Not a flop show: Anna Hazare' s fast is over
> > but people's fight is on
> > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> > From: jasvir70@gmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:33:06 +0000
> >
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> >
> > Dear col dharma. Very well said. And a very happy new year to u
> >
> > Regards
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> > Jasvir. From: krantikumar dharmadhikary <krdharma@yahoo.co.in>
> > Sender: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:30:56 +0530 (IST)To: <ashishm@governancenow.com>;
> > <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>ReplyTo: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RE: Not a flop show: Anna Hazare'
> > s fast is over but people's fight is on
> > Dear Friends,The fight should be against corruption and not for or against
> > lokpal.There are enough of laws,it is the implementation and
> > obeying/following is lackingLet us start fighting "Individually"
> > ,obeying/following personally.Do not wait for any one.HAPPY NEW YEAR 2012Col
> > Dharma
> >
> > --- On Fri, 30/12/11, Prem Gaba <premgaba@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Prem Gaba <premgaba@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [HumJanenge] RE: Not a flop show: Anna Hazare's fast is over but
> > people's fight is on
> > To: ashishm@governancenow.com, "Humjanenge" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Friday, 30 December, 2011, 1:28 PM
> >
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> > Dear Mr Ashish Mehta,
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> >
> >
> > Thank you for this excellent article below. Its not only interesting but
> > very much relvent to the debate going on in the country. I am sure
> > majority of the readers will agree with you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Last night Bill was not passed in RS. Most of the Parties were saying that
> > its toothless. Now whether they were sincere or saying for the sake of
> > voters' consumption is any body's guess. Because there were leaders who were
> > dead against Annas protest & his demands since April & suddenly started
> > saying that its a weak bill. Then there are people who say that netas are
> > NOT responsible for this mass corruption at every step. As I said in my
> > earlier mail also that if this class is taimed, rest will automatically
> > fall in line.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is an opinion & I respect every opinion whether one agrees or not,
> > that if the salaries of the Govt servants/Police are increased they will
> > not be corrupt.
> >
> >
> >
> > If that be so then why do we have a large no of senior bureaucrats in Govt,
> > Judiciary & Police Officers who are well paid with liberal perks, enjoy
> > high status & are still corrupt !! . Morality,values & honesty has to come
> > from within or it must be forced with strict laws. There has to be a sense
> > of fear in those who are out to make quick money by dishonest means.Yes
> > compulsory Army service will inculcate discipline & honesty to a degree .
> > Mr E Sreedharan, also called Metroman (who retires today at 76 !!, has shown
> > what honesty & sincerity can do for the nation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Prem Gaba
> >
> >
> >
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> > Not a flop show: Anna Hazare's fast is over but people's fight is on
> > Movement has taken the roots of democracy deeper
> > Ashish Mehta | New Delhi | December 29 2011
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> > later, reality proves your predictions right in nine out of ten cases. Those
> > who predicted little will come out the anti-corruption campaign can give a
> > smug smile now. Those who predicted Anna will lose steam have got their
> > I-told-you-so moment.
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> > The Lokpal bill has cleared the first hurdle, but the second one looks
> > tougher. Even if the bill is passed, what we will get will be a toothless
> > tiger, not different from the central vigilance commission (CVC), only worse
> > in that it will add to the multiplicity of agencies supposedly at work to
> > punish the corrupt. Nothing will change.
> >
> > Cynics have had a grand time in 2011, and guaranteed to have more in the
> > years to come.
> >
> > But if you are not a cynic, if you belong to a sub-species, Homo
> > optimisticus – you know, the type who looks at a maidan and says it is half
> > full – then there is little to feel sorry about it. "Anna's Flop Show" (as
> > one headline put it) is just an occasional dip, but look at the other side.
> >
> > At the beginning of 2011, the Commonwealth Games had continued to make
> > headlines, more details were coming out on the 2G scandal, the Adarsh
> > housing society scam was about to unfold afresh. But all the shenanigans
> > were smirking.
> >
> > A group of concerned citizens, the activist-intellectual types, carried out
> > a rally from the Rajghat to the Ramlila Maidan on the occasion of January
> > 30, demanding some action on corruption front. No traffic diversions were
> > needed, the rally was so thin. A couple of months later the redoubtable Baba
> > Ramdev also had a do at the Ramlila Grounds, and passengers in the buses
> > looked at the modest gathering and gave
> > a yawn.
> >
> > Cynics were surely having an upper hand. Corruption is worth fighting
> > against, and if somebody else is fighting the fight, so much the better.
> >
> > Thus, it was no surprise that on April 5, newspapers devoted a single-column
> > item to a social activist's proposed protest at the Jantar Mantar. Little
> > did they know they were going to be forced to devote many more columns to
> > the man little known outside western India.
> >
> > Read the full coverage since April 5, news, views and more. Click here.
> >
> > It has been about nine months, a decent gestation period, and what has been
> > achieved to counter cynics?
> >
> > • People like Aatar Singh, a 64-year-old farmer, have realized that they
> > actually have a voice in democracy. (This village pradhan went all the way
> > from Rohtak to Mumbai to participate in the
> > latest round of Anna's protest fast. You can see his photograph above.)
> > Professors and policemen, housewives and havildars, geeks and garbage
> > collectors, they all have kept fast or given time to show solidarity. Nobody
> > had counted on the youngsters to take up a cause like this. Instead of silly
> > jokes, they started forwarding in emails suggestions to fight graft. [Read
> > more about Anna's curious connect with the youth here]
> >
> > If you ask cynics, this was not supposed to happen.
> >
> > • The UPA government has been embarrassed, that early 2011 smirk is gone.
> > There is no longer any comfort in the hope that corruption (and the deeper
> > malaise of which it is a symptom – misgovernance) is a non-issue and the
> > usual identity politics of caste and religion will deliver them victory in
> > 2014.
> >
> > • The Lokpal, toothless or not, is getting off the ground. Unlike CVC which
> > few people other than bureaucrats and journalists had heard of when it came
> > up, folks like Aatar Singh will be watching the Lokpal (if and when it comes
> > up).
> >
> > • Above all, a foundation or a platform has been prepared once again, a way
> > has been shown once again, for taking the roots of our democracy deeper.
> > Hissar, for all its debates of politicisation, was the only logical way for
> > a civil society movement to make inroads into the vote-centric democracy.
> >
> > We are sure the movement so far has more achievements (please write them in
> > the comment box below if
> > you have any other points in mind), but the point is: In 2011 a man (or his
> > team, or the people who responded to him) have shown there is a way.
> >
> > Which incidentally is the headline of our cover story for the next issue,
> > which will hit the stands on January 1. Don't forget to pick it up, there's
> > much more there.
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> > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:48:39 +0530
> > Subject: Not a flop show: Anna Hazare's fast is over but people's fight is
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> > From: ashishm@governancenow.com
> > To: sroy.mb@gmail.com; premgaba@hotmail.com; mkkhera@yahoo.com;
> > trivendra54@yahoo.co.in; rekhi@cain.in; pradeepbajaj7@gmail.com;
> > mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in; hemantkshirsagar01@gmail.com
> >
> > Dear sir/s,
> >
> > You may find this interesting and possibly relevant to your debate.
> >
> > With thanks and regards,
> > ashish
> >
> > Not a flop show: Anna Hazare's fast is over but people's fight is on
> > Movement has taken the roots of democracy deeper
> > http://governancenow.com/news/regular-story/not-flop-show-anna-hazare-s-fast-over-peoples-fight
> >
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> Best Regards
>
> R K Atri
>
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> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RE: Not a flop show: Anna Hazare's fast is over but people's fight is on
> From: rkatri1@gmail.com
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> Thats True Col.Dharmadhikari,
> Wishing you all a very happy new year.
> R.K.Atri
>
> On 1/1/12, KRANTIKUMAR DHARMADHIKARY <krdharma@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Sh Jasvir,Thanks.Ea kaur Eak Garah hotey haiCol Dharma
> >
> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RE: Not a flop show: Anna Hazare' s fast is over
> > but people's fight is on
> > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> > From: jasvir70@gmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:33:06 +0000
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear col dharma. Very well said. And a very happy new year to u
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jasvir. From: krantikumar dharmadhikary <krdharma@yahoo.co.in>
> > Sender: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:30:56 +0530 (IST)To: <ashishm@governancenow.com>;
> > <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>ReplyTo: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RE: Not a flop show: Anna Hazare'
> > s fast is over but people's fight is on
> > Dear Friends,The fight should be against corruption and not for or against
> > lokpal.There are enough of laws,it is the implementation and
> > obeying/following is lackingLet us start fighting "Individually"
> > ,obeying/following personally.Do not wait for any one.HAPPY NEW YEAR 2012Col
> > Dharma
> >
> > --- On Fri, 30/12/11, Prem Gaba <premgaba@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Prem Gaba <premgaba@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [HumJanenge] RE: Not a flop show: Anna Hazare's fast is over but
> > people's fight is on
> > To: ashishm@governancenow.com, "Humjanenge" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Friday, 30 December, 2011, 1:28 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr Ashish Mehta,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for this excellent article below. Its not only interesting but
> > very much relvent to the debate going on in the country. I am sure
> > majority of the readers will agree with you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Last night Bill was not passed in RS. Most of the Parties were saying that
> > its toothless. Now whether they were sincere or saying for the sake of
> > voters' consumption is any body's guess. Because there were leaders who were
> > dead against Annas protest & his demands since April & suddenly started
> > saying that its a weak bill. Then there are people who say that netas are
> > NOT responsible for this mass corruption at every step. As I said in my
> > earlier mail also that if this class is taimed, rest will automatically
> > fall in line.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is an opinion & I respect every opinion whether one agrees or not,
> > that if the salaries of the Govt servants/Police are increased they will
> > not be corrupt.
> >
> >
> >
> > If that be so then why do we have a large no of senior bureaucrats in Govt,
> > Judiciary & Police Officers who are well paid with liberal perks, enjoy
> > high status & are still corrupt !! . Morality,values & honesty has to come
> > from within or it must be forced with strict laws. There has to be a sense
> > of fear in those who are out to make quick money by dishonest means.Yes
> > compulsory Army service will inculcate discipline & honesty to a degree .
> > Mr E Sreedharan, also called Metroman (who retires today at 76 !!, has shown
> > what honesty & sincerity can do for the nation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Prem Gaba
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Not a flop show: Anna Hazare's fast is over but people's fight is on
> > Movement has taken the roots of democracy deeper
> > Ashish Mehta | New Delhi | December 29 2011
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> > Cynicism is like love. It means never having to say you're sorry. Sooner or
> > later, reality proves your predictions right in nine out of ten cases. Those
> > who predicted little will come out the anti-corruption campaign can give a
> > smug smile now. Those who predicted Anna will lose steam have got their
> > I-told-you-so moment.
> >
> > The Lokpal bill has cleared the first hurdle, but the second one looks
> > tougher. Even if the bill is passed, what we will get will be a toothless
> > tiger, not different from the central vigilance commission (CVC), only worse
> > in that it will add to the multiplicity of agencies supposedly at work to
> > punish the corrupt. Nothing will change.
> >
> > Cynics have had a grand time in 2011, and guaranteed to have more in the
> > years to come.
> >
> > But if you are not a cynic, if you belong to a sub-species, Homo
> > optimisticus – you know, the type who looks at a maidan and says it is half
> > full – then there is little to feel sorry about it. "Anna's Flop Show" (as
> > one headline put it) is just an occasional dip, but look at the other side.
> >
> > At the beginning of 2011, the Commonwealth Games had continued to make
> > headlines, more details were coming out on the 2G scandal, the Adarsh
> > housing society scam was about to unfold afresh. But all the shenanigans
> > were smirking.
> >
> > A group of concerned citizens, the activist-intellectual types, carried out
> > a rally from the Rajghat to the Ramlila Maidan on the occasion of January
> > 30, demanding some action on corruption front. No traffic diversions were
> > needed, the rally was so thin. A couple of months later the redoubtable Baba
> > Ramdev also had a do at the Ramlila Grounds, and passengers in the buses
> > looked at the modest gathering and gave
> > a yawn.
> >
> > Cynics were surely having an upper hand. Corruption is worth fighting
> > against, and if somebody else is fighting the fight, so much the better.
> >
> > Thus, it was no surprise that on April 5, newspapers devoted a single-column
> > item to a social activist's proposed protest at the Jantar Mantar. Little
> > did they know they were going to be forced to devote many more columns to
> > the man little known outside western India.
> >
> > Read the full coverage since April 5, news, views and more. Click here.
> >
> > It has been about nine months, a decent gestation period, and what has been
> > achieved to counter cynics?
> >
> > • People like Aatar Singh, a 64-year-old farmer, have realized that they
> > actually have a voice in democracy. (This village pradhan went all the way
> > from Rohtak to Mumbai to participate in the
> > latest round of Anna's protest fast. You can see his photograph above.)
> > Professors and policemen, housewives and havildars, geeks and garbage
> > collectors, they all have kept fast or given time to show solidarity. Nobody
> > had counted on the youngsters to take up a cause like this. Instead of silly
> > jokes, they started forwarding in emails suggestions to fight graft. [Read
> > more about Anna's curious connect with the youth here]
> >
> > If you ask cynics, this was not supposed to happen.
> >
> > • The UPA government has been embarrassed, that early 2011 smirk is gone.
> > There is no longer any comfort in the hope that corruption (and the deeper
> > malaise of which it is a symptom – misgovernance) is a non-issue and the
> > usual identity politics of caste and religion will deliver them victory in
> > 2014.
> >
> > • The Lokpal, toothless or not, is getting off the ground. Unlike CVC which
> > few people other than bureaucrats and journalists had heard of when it came
> > up, folks like Aatar Singh will be watching the Lokpal (if and when it comes
> > up).
> >
> > • Above all, a foundation or a platform has been prepared once again, a way
> > has been shown once again, for taking the roots of our democracy deeper.
> > Hissar, for all its debates of politicisation, was the only logical way for
> > a civil society movement to make inroads into the vote-centric democracy.
> >
> > We are sure the movement so far has more achievements (please write them in
> > the comment box below if
> > you have any other points in mind), but the point is: In 2011 a man (or his
> > team, or the people who responded to him) have shown there is a way.
> >
> > Which incidentally is the headline of our cover story for the next issue,
> > which will hit the stands on January 1. Don't forget to pick it up, there's
> > much more there.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:48:39 +0530
> > Subject: Not a flop show: Anna Hazare's fast is over but people's fight is
> > on
> > From: ashishm@governancenow.com
> > To: sroy.mb@gmail.com; premgaba@hotmail.com; mkkhera@yahoo.com;
> > trivendra54@yahoo.co.in; rekhi@cain.in; pradeepbajaj7@gmail.com;
> > mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in; hemantkshirsagar01@gmail.com
> >
> > Dear sir/s,
> >
> > You may find this interesting and possibly relevant to your debate.
> >
> > With thanks and regards,
> > ashish
> >
> > Not a flop show: Anna Hazare's fast is over but people's fight is on
> > Movement has taken the roots of democracy deeper
> > http://governancenow.com/news/regular-story/not-flop-show-anna-hazare-s-fast-over-peoples-fight
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> Best Regards
>
> R K Atri
>
> F - 303, Munirka Appts, Plot No.11
> Sector 9, Dwarka New Delhi 110075
> Ph +91- 99588-83111 / 9868610518
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