RE: [HumJanenge] Clerk penalized by IC SG for delay

In govt there are two varieties. One is officer and the other is worker.

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From: Vipen Mahajan
Sent: 05/04/2011 11:48:14 am
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Clerk penalized by IC SG for delay

Perhaps a more important issue is not if he is an officer, or a clerk, but :

1. What is the job description of the person,
2. Was he trained/instructed in his job functions, roles and duties, if
yes than was there a record of the same, f not then his superior is
responsible for this dereliction of duty
3. Did he do the job, as per his instructions/training
4. etc.

I think unless the whole chain is fixed to perform, we can keep playing the
blame game. No improvement/change will take place.
Vipen
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, devinder chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Shri Roy:
>
> I have never served as an employee or an Officer of the GOI but have
> over the decades collaborated with Govt. Deptts. and Ministries from
> outside.
>
> My information is that an UDC is an upper division *clerk*., and is NOT an
> Officer.
>
> With regards.
> dev chopra - UN Retiree in gurgaon
> *** 9810338049.
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Will some enlightened person well versed in functioning of Govt inform me
>> of
>> a UDC (upper division clerk) is an "officer" or not (for purposes of 5.4
>> and 5.5
>> of RTI Act). I thought that they are classifed as "employees".
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On 4/5/11, Manoj Pai <manojpai@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > This was first heard in Gujarat, 2006, when the State SIC ordered a
>> token
>> > penalty of Rs.1,000/- to the clerk for keeping the RTI Application
>> pending
>> > in his drawer. Now this is the turn in New Delhi where IC SC has
>> penalized
>> > not only the CPIO, but the UDC as well. As usual, the clerk tried to
>> blame
>> > the CPIO by saying "that being a UDC, he was not required to prepare a
>> reply
>> > in response to a RTI application but that it was the PIO's
>> responsibility to
>> > prepare the reply."
>> >
>> > However, the commission saw through their bluff and penalized both the
>> CPIO
>> > and UDC for 44 days each. Check link
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_SG_A_2010_003423_T_54438.pdf
>> >
>> > Of course, the decision is dated 1st April, but this does not mean it is
>> a
>> > joke. See it for yourself.
>> >
>> > Manoj
>> >
>>
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