Re: [HumJanenge] FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE

Friends, I disagree that Rig Veda states that Hindus came from Persia; the book contains no history but is a collection of RICHAs (verses) composed by various sages and passed on to the next generation through word of mouth (SHRUTIs) of their disciples and followers (there was possibly no script and the Richas had to be pronounced exactly in the same manner as that prescribed by the composer else one was to be consigned to hell after death).  It was Ved Vyas and his disciples who compiled and wrote down the Vedas. The historians believe that  the first immigration to India was from Central Asia and Afghanistan.  The Aryans came via the Khaibar Pass and settled down in Indo-Gangetic plains..  Subsequently the Sumerians (Aryans in Persia) came via the Bolan Pass and settled in Baluchistan, Sind, Rajasthan and Central India. The natives were few and could not fight the new comers who had horse, bow and arrows and a well organized social structure.  They would therefore resort to attack by night and were called nishachar.  In Sanskrit, Dasyu is other word for the enemy, and those of them who were defeated and captured were called Daas or slaves.  The Aryans ushered education and knowledge,; their way of life was soon accepted in South India also. Yes, Hinduism encompasses the various ways of life system in vogue amongst the Aryans who initially worshiped all that was super natural.  It was a way of life of the Aryans which was called Hinduism much later; initially there were the Aryas and the Anaryas in India. Col MMP Kala. --- On Tue, 28/2/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE To: "Surendera M. Bhanot" <bhanot1952@gmail.com>, "humjanenge" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Date: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012, 11:02 PM Dear Surendra, The Sanskrit term Sindhu refers to the river Indus (pronounced "In-doos") The people from Persia (which includes Iran) referred to people on the other side of the river as Hindoos, just as some Maharashtrians living on one side of a certain mountain range refer to those on the other side as "ghatis". In any case for 1000's of years now it is quite clear who the Hindoos are ... ARYANS who came running across the Indus river after being defeated by the PERSIANS. The native people of India are NOT Hindus, but have had "Hinduism" IMPOSED on them. All this is clearly explained in the Rig Veda (which is the only authentic Veda - the rest either having being considerably corrupted over time or considerably fabricated). In fact the losing Aryans call their "Gods" as "Devas" and their Devils as "Asura". Whereas the victorious Persians call their God as "Ahura" and their devils as "DEVils". (BTW, I am not saying all this or making it up, it is published by the Ethnographer-General of the Govt of India in 1912.) So it is immaterial if Hinduism is tainted or not, or the language is tainted or not. IT is what is accepted by the majority people of this country,if you dont like it REFORM IT or emigrate to Pakistan. Sarbajit On 2/28/12, Surendera M. Bhanot <bhanot1952@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Hindu is a tainted name came from the Sindhu, meaning people living in the > Sidhu Ghati. This name was invented by the aranians. So there is no > mythological history of the name Hindu.  Its like the naming a new-born. > Nobody names himself. Its the others who mane you to recognise you. > Sarabjit is not the name you gave to yourself. It was bestowed on you by > your nears and dears.