Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Re: [rti_india] RTI "misuse"


There is no question of misuse of rti. As it is clear from the fact that no reason need be mentioned for seeking info, any one belonging to any class, social stature, education, who had trying times with departments in getting there work done are all the category of applicant. Pio just have to give the information sought for if those do not fall under prohibited class.

We have 1.2 billion population and the rti users could not be more than a few lakhs.
Out of these must be mostly disgruntled persons for what soever reasons. A good number must be ex Government service people who have the knowledge of wrong things happening but closed their eyes for obvious reasons and when fell out of the syndicate they appear to be settling scores.

Around 10-15% (rich, afluent and powers that be) do not seem to require any information as the public servants appear to be working for them who can "buy out" every thing including information, if need be. Information is required when things are not happening the way it should. If one gets plenty of milk why groom a cow?

60-70% of population cannot afford the time and expenses involved in the process.Around 400 million belongs to BPL and starving section for whom the application cost could pacify their hunger partially.

Ultimately the whole process of information seeking is totally unproductive, frustrating and blunting the aggressiveness of people who mean righteous business, whaqt so ever!

Who ever says rti is misused they are not people friendly and strike at the very root of democracy, if we really has one!!!  There can be no measure or parameters for seeking information !

So far, even after 6 years of inception RTI is a tool used by government to retarrd the advancing aggresive good samaritans from knowing why even legitimate  things are delayed, not happening and so on. Itr is like the villain in a movie throwing pebbles or oil
in the path of the advancing hero to get a breathing time. RTI in India is not happening like any other acts or stipulations and it appear to be adding  a great deal of areas of corruption, genuine seekers of information are sometimes required to grese the palms!

Where do we go from here!!

Iyer GA 

Iyer GA   

--- On Thu, 16/9/10, Satish Kumar Kapoor <> wrote:

From: Satish Kumar Kapoor <>
Subject: Re: [rti_india] RTI "misuse"
Date: Thursday, 16 September, 2010, 8:26 AM


What are parameters for terming any application under RTI act, as "misuse"? Information Commissioners who say 80% people mis use RTI, must define, what amounts to mis use.

In fact these ICs, Ex Babus do not want to appreciate difficulties in obtaining information from Babus in routine manner.


Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 6:45:50 AM
Subject: Re: [rti_india] RTI "misuse"


Dear Mr Ram Narayan,
I am totally against the word of mis use of RTI.
The use & mis use of RTI depends on the type of information asked by the applicant.
Before 2005 when people walk over the bad roads,... there is no other option other than just to blame the officials who made the bad roads.
one in thousand who had good english knowledge may write to the Hindu...
Now, most of the common man started using RTI.
When an applicant statrs asking the info, there must be some problem with the PA (some time directly or indirectly).
In one of the case one Citizen approached an officer for his favour & the same was denaied. He approached me for preparation of RTI application for getting the Log Book details of officers Car (of the said officer who refused for a favour ) under RTI.
Though the moto is misuse of RTI, the Official Car now been utilised only for Office use.
If there is no mis use of Official Car , what is wrong to furnish info..???
In My view, Use or Mis Use.. RTI gives the desired result (the result may be bad for the information provider but always Good for the Information Seeker)
T N Krishnamoorthi

--- On Wed, 15/9/10, Ramnarayan.K <> wrote:

From: Ramnarayan.K <>
Subject: Re: [rti_india] RTI "misuse" divides Commission
Date: Wednesday, 15 September, 2010, 9:48 AM

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:50 AM, sarbajitr <> wrote:
> Yet another CIA financed unscientific study from Parivartan.

> "IC M M Ansari felt that a very large number of people, almost 80%, misused the Act. "The situation is growing from bad to worse. Now, people only misuse the Act. There is no provision to impose penalty on people, who are misusing the Act. Most of the applicants are government officers who either want to solve their grievances or want to know details of their promotions," he said. "

Thanks Sarabjit,

This is yet again the corrupted, conniving media along with the
"powers that wanna be" who are "allegedly" trying to get pressure put
on to change the RTI act to make it less useful for the common person.

Govt. employees, like every one else , too have grievances and if
there is no mechanism that redresses that then they will use what ever
is available.

And as with all solutions the one they will follow isto through the
baby out with the bath water, leaving all the genuine concerned with
nothing but another begging bowl.


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