Re: [HumJanenge] Very Apt Issue for RTI - Inexcusable to Soldiers Anywhere

Respected IS Gill Sir SSA Who will bell the cat? Will somebody like S.Bhagat Singh or Banda Singh Bahadur be ever born to get us the same precdence or satatus to that of 1952? What a hope though in despair with the present set up,prevailing system/Nexus and the stock of patriots in the parliament. With regards in reverence SARVADA SHAKTISHALI,A GRINDER,PATIALA   --- On Sat, 21/4/12, Inderjit Singh Gill <isgill48@gmail.com> wrote: From: Inderjit Singh Gill <isgill48@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Very Apt Issue for RTI - Inexcusable to Soldiers Anywhere To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 21 April, 2012, 5:43 PM Dear Sir,   When we were serving under Britishers, we had OROP and that too at 75 % of last salary. This continued till 1973. There after this was brought down to 50% of last salary drawn. This shows that Indian soldier was 'more important' to British Govt and NOT SO IMPORTANT for 'National Govt'.   Is it not a shame that the Supreme Commander, who refused to meet Ex Servicemen who wanted to draw her attention to their plight, is now going to occupy more than 2 lac sq ft of 'SERVICEMEN's land when she herself retires? "Security cover' is going to be free for her!!!   I hope the ESM group in Pune succeeds in their judicial fight, who have moved court against misuse of AMRY Land in Khadi for making 'supreme cdr' comfortable at NATIONAL EXPENSE. Why she can not be provide a 4500 sq ft accommodation in JALGAON / AURANGABAD.   Rgds   Lt Col IS Gill, Veteran MHOW  On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote: Dear Honorable Members of HJ Group, Col Rahul has raised a much larger issue of very high public interest. We the people have a right to know how our elected representatives are governed as far as their pay/perks are concerned. Tax payer money is being used to build a palatial house for the current honorable President when she retires, the country needs to know how has this been allowed ? Once, out of the office,  what should be the just and fair way for the rest of the life of the ex - President needs to be made available on the web for the people to know. No other country in the world does this as brazenly as India does.   I have no idea as to how to give this issue a national importance where people of India must know what has been done for all ex-Presidents, ex-Governors, ex-PMs, ex-CMs and ex-politicians so far. What is the way forward to streamline this post retirement scheme for all ex-politicians as stated above.   India is not Russia or China where in the garb of socialism, serving and ex-politicians are treated as demigods. When our Planning Commission fixes 32/- limit for BPL, what should be a reasonable scheme for our ex-politicians just like other democratic nations, is a very valid question which must be written in black and white.     Not sure but may be we the people should ask the government to put up all such schemes on a web site for the country to know how much tax payer money is being spent on this along with the mechanism of arriving at the same just like pay commissions mechanism.   With warm regards, Col Mahesh Khera From: Rahul Kumar <rahulkb50@yahoo.com> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, 20 April 2012 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Very Apt Issue for RTI - Inexcusable to Soldiers Anywhere Col Khera, Is there a way where we can jointly appeal to the authorities (I do know where this should go?) to take up the case that ALL elected representatives should be paid salary like any other Govt Employee and be governed by the laws of land subsequently? After all they are public servants and they also need to be paid. Thus all expenses debited to them should be paid out of their salary - let it be the security cover of a fleet of 10 or 20 vehs with 100 police guys around provided they can pay from their salary? No Govt servant gets pension for 5 yrs of service? then why politicians? IAS, IPS Judges, MLA's MP's etc get pension based on the latest fixation - the so calle One Rank One Pay. Its only ARMY which is not given. Why should public money be spend on them? rgds rahul From: Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> To: Humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, 20 April 2012 3:44 PM Subject: [HumJanenge] Very Apt Issue for RTI - Inexcusable to Soldiers Anywhere Honorable Members of HJ Group, Please ponder over the post below as to how the government has treated our soldiers. While they have always stood the toughest test in the most challenging environment, the government must also pay back the gratitude of the nation to the soldiers.    If any honorable member of HJ Group wants to seek any clarifications, kindly contact Brig PT Gangadharan as mentioned at the end of this post. "MAKES GREAT SENSE.......   UNEXPLAINABLE and completely INEXCUSAB LE!!!. Our Indian Soldiers not different.Ill treated by the Nation on all possible count.Denied every benefit even applicable to civilian employees. No one has been able to explain to me why young men and women serve in the Indian Army(U.S. Military for 20 years), risking their lives protecting freedom, and only get 50% of their pay. While Politicians hold their political positions in the safe confines of the capital, protected by these same men and women, and receive full pay, retirement after serving one term. It just does not make any sense.  If each person that receives this will forward it on to 20 people, in three days, most people in India will know the truth about the government attitude towards its Armed Forces and have the message.. This is one proposal that really should be passed around. The least the Govt can do at this juncture is to accept the Report of the Parliament Committee on OROP and withdraw all cases of petition of the Govt from SC where  judgement has already been passed in favour of Defence Forces. Do not make the life difficult for a soldier, if you want your freedom intact. --    Brigadier PTGangadharan, Guards, Veteran,Nr Chimaya school,PO >Nellicode Kozhikode(Calicut) -673016. Tel:0495 2356863/9447766863  E Mail ID-  brigadier.ptgangadh aran@gmail. com "   Jai Hind, Col Mahesh Khera