Re: [rti_india] Re: What have we done to deserve such dumb ICs in the CIC ?

Sunday, July 18, 2010

Re: [rti_india] Re: What have we done to deserve such dumb ICs in the CIC ?

Mr Ashish,

ËŭõĂõ - 2 ( ôČîąËø – 1)
þÉÝæî Ûˡ ̀û̃ǘʺõĂÉ, ÛćŪõ ÕûÉ ÛêŘʳ
Chapter-2 (Manual – 1)
Particulars of Organization, Functions and Duties

ËŭõĂõ - 3 (ôČîąËø – 2)
Ë̂íÛĂăöõɎ Úö ÛôŘàĂăöõɎ Ûˡ श̂ɨõĂÉ ÕûÉ ÛêŘʳ,
Chapter – 3 (Manual – 2)
Powers and Duties of Officers and Employees

ËŭõĂõ - 4 (ôČîąËø – 3)
ÛćŪõɎ Û˹ ̀îûĂŘÿî ÿ˹êą ̀îõô, ̀û̀îõô, Ëîąì˹ü, ̀îì˻̃üÛĂ Úö Ë̃óøċÜ
Chapter - 4 (Manual – 3)
Rules, Regulations, Instructions, Manual and Records, for
Discharging Functions

ËŭõĂõ - 5 (ôČîąËø -4)
îĄ̀ê ̀îíĂŘöण व ÛĂõĂŘŮûõî Û˹ þųòŮí ôɂ âîêĂ õĂ जन-Ƶ̀ềîíĄ þċ ðöĂôüŘ
Û˹ ̃øõċ òîĂõĄ ÝõĄ ʳûŻëĂ ÛĂ ̀ûûöé
Chapter – 5 (Manual -4)
Particulars of any arrangement that exists for consultation
with, or representation by, the members of the public in
relation to the formulation of its policy or implementation
thereof

etc
etc
etc
etc
(Sorry, the Hindi fonts do not appear properly).

The above is from Sec 4 - Template for Information Handbook on the DoPT website.

Secondly have a look at the RTI disclosure on the BIS website:

http://www.bis.org.in/org/rti_act.htm

You will surely understand why BIS/PIO/FAA were confused about "Manuals" !
Please decide for yourself whether the disclosure is complete and up to date in all respects.

RTIwanted

--- On Mon, 7/19/10, ashish kr1965 <ashishkr1965@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: ashish kr1965 <ashishkr1965@yahoo.com>
Subject: [rti_india] Re: What have we done to deserve such dumb ICs in the CIC ?
To: rti_india@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 2:52 AM

Dear Shri Pai

The applicant asked for the 17 manuals "according under" section 4(1)(b) of the RTI Act. The CPIO replied (properly) sating that the query was not clear.

It is only the RTI users who use the term 17 "manuals" of 4(1)(b). The RTI Act itself lays no requirement for the proactive disclosure to be in the form of "manuals"