Dear Manoj
I concur with you that when brainless idiots (aka "RTI activists") think they are saving RTI and go running off to CIC under the delusion that they are RTI experts, they f*** up the scene for everyone else.
The latest such idiot is Vihar Durve in this sterling example
"CENTRAL INFORMATION COMMISSION
Appeal Nos. CIC/WB/A/2009/000545 dated 5.5.2009
& CIC/WB/A/2010/000303 dated 7.7.2010
Appellant -
Vihar Durve
Respondent -
1. Department of Personnel & Training
2. Central Information Commission
Decision announced: 30.7.2010
He was "assisted" by 2 more idiots Rakesh Agrawal (formerly) of Nyayabhoomi and Venkatesh Nayak (as observer)
These "3 idiots" (actually 3 assassins of RTI) have totally screwed up the scene for section 4 compliance / enforcement. As all concerned idiots are members here I hope they will inform us exactly what happened,and why this outrageous decision came to be.
PS: The decision is not out as yet on CIC website, somebody forwarded
it to me.
Sarbajit
--- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com, Manoj Pai <manojpai@...> wrote:
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> 4) Smart CPIOs are known to reject applications sent through email, citing Section 3. This is one reason, why I use digital signatures, as they can always my existence etc. For group members, I would recommend that you send a scanned image of proof of your citizenship. It would also help if you can send an Indian postal address. This makes it easier for CPIO to send the information. Very few CPIOs are net savy to send the information by email. Yes I have received several such information by email.
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> 5) I know of several cases, where applicants have got such information through this route. As far as the CIC is concerned, I know a case, (not mine) where one CPIO actually sent a copy of the original RTI Application to the CIC for clarification. The registrar of the latter responded to the CPIO by asking him to adhere to the principle of the RTI Act in letter and spirit.
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> So far so good, this invention has worked wonders for several applicants. However, I would strongly recommend, that all applicant should NOT try this route with every Public Authority. Please identify the CPIO of the PA and sure that he can understand what you are asking. Else, he would bluntly deny you the information. I would further request these same applicants not to rush to the CIC on this ground, as like described by Sarbajit, the CIC would block this route for us for ever.
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> Best wishes
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> --- On Wed, 7/28/10, sarbajit roy <mail.sarbajitroy@...> wrote:
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> 5) The "slight flaw" is not a flaw but a procedural interpretation. I am sure
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> that when some RTI activist tries to replicate our formula and gets an
> unfavorable order from the Commissions, that this route will be blocked
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> I tried it out some time back and I should be "shocked & shaken, but not stirred" to tell you that I got all information. This includes from seven PA in your city of Mumbai. I also tried it out, with two Central Govt. PA in J&K, long before their own (news avatar) came into force.
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> It all depends on how you draft the email elaborating the provisions of Section 6 & 7, like Sarbajit described, without quoting Section 4. Of course, I had sent digitally signed emails.
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> Though the points give by Sarbajit are all sound, there is a slight flaw. Let us leave it to the "not so disclosure friendly" CPIOs & FAAs "disclose" this flaw to us. Till then enjoy the slice of bread.
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> Regretfully still petrified.
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> --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@ gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@ gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [rti_india] Re: The greatest RTI discovery since the invention of sliced bread
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> To: rti_india@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:34 AM
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> Appreciate your invention. It will also be good if somebody has tried such means of application and/or you try one test case by appling so by electronic means, with out fees.
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> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
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> > > Say Sarbajit.... isn't it shocking. I am petrified.
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