Friday, August 27, 2010

Re: 04 - Re: [rti_india] Shailesh Gandhi eats humble pie

 


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It appears that we all forgot about RTI

It is not Tiwari alone but each of the authorities behaves strangely from the time a RTI application is received and by now (from inception) most of the departments have developed a "research" team for thwarting the applicant's effort. Depending on the nature
of the information sought reflections of the authorities gives an impression that they are bitten by ant, bee, scorpion, snake and so on Seriousness of the information sought was graver than bearing the charges of murder, we have seen in RTI activist's murders. This writer experienced hurdles even to submit an application at the initial stages! On some pretext or other they used to delay receiving application, at the same time informing concerned about anticipated application and to be prepared! 30 days time required for giving the information is to scan through files remove any thing incriminating and if consequences are bad even disappear the file.I  apprehend that even records available in the files, particularly like  property records,are tampered wth once an application is received.

Many of the discussions and debate often turns to debate (fight) between members in the cite and the architect of RTI, who so ever, yields the desired results, diflecting the activists from their focus! This is precisely what the "government wants, leaving us to fight among us !This is a time legal professionals are contemplating to do away with addressing Judges and so on like Your Honor, My Lord --- and stressing on politeness in application does not arise but it should not be impolite! There is nothing to loose either by being humble or polite but if the purpose appear to be dragged indefinitely level of loosing politeness and humility is anybody's guess!  Imagine a situation where applicant is the neighbour of PIO (public servant) or SIC, or CIC I have had occasions to notice big bosses of companies, whom people address Sir, Saheb and so on, employees fear for their jobs constantly, addresses the peon in the Municipality Saheb---and does everything short of falling at feet!

Now let us get rid of such desire to be called by sir, saheb, malik and so on! "NAM MEI KYA HAI, KAM MEI MATLAB HAI"

Iyer GA   


--- On Fri, 27/8/10, VB Singh <vijay_bsingh@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: VB Singh <vijay_bsingh@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: 04 - Re: [rti_india] Shailesh Gandhi eats humble pie
To: rti_india@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 27 August, 2010, 9:15 AM

 

I agree with Mr. Shah. This topic has reached a flash point and it would be prudent not to discuss it anymore. We all are aiming to make RTI Act a success and to avoid the babus to act in a manner which suits their pockets.

The appointments of Shaileshji, AN Tiwariji, and other ICs would have been discussed and debated by Committtee consisting of PM Shri Manmohan Singhji, then Leader of Opposition in Lok Sabha Shri LK Advaniji, and the Cabinet Minister appointed by PM and then only President might have approved their appointments.

By raising eyebrows on the integrity of CIC and ICs we are attempting to degrade the office which is in itself a milestone for all of us and is going to be beneficial to us. If anyone has any reservation regarding integrity of a particular IC, he is free to take remedial measures available to him as provided under Section 14 of RTI Act.

Regarding grievances againast decisions of CIC and ICs, the remedy is available in High Court by way of Writ Pwetition and hence instead of airing our emotional outburst in groups or fora (then inviting contempt notices), it is recommended to file Writ Petitions in respective High Courts.

With warmest regards,
VB Singh

--- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com, Dipak Shah <djshah1944@...> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>                     Now it should be end to this topic. There are many topics to
> be discussed. Let us make full stop tot his subject.
> C A SHah D J
> USA


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