Sunday, November 28, 2010

Re: [RTI INDIA] Fwd: [rti-times] CIC recommends draft DoPT RTI Rules scrap application fee

I am willing to pay Rs. 500.00 per second appeal (and even a complaint) provided:

1. The penalty under Sec 20(1) is made mandatory in every case
    (If no penalty, the IC is fined Rs 25,000)
2. The appellant / complainant is made a party to the the penalty proceedings in each and every case
3. The ICs do not keep any appeal / complaint pending beyond 90 days of receipt in SIC/CIC
    (For every day delay in the hearing beyond 90 days - the IC pays Rs. 50 per day to the appellant)
4. The time limit to pronounce an order, after the hearing is completed, is clearly specified. For each day of delay beyond the specified time, the IC pays Rs. 100 per day to the applicant.
5. The fees collected by the SIC/CIC do not go towards the payment of salaries and other benefits of the ICs - the government appointed them, let the government pay them. Why should I pay someone and also suffer him/her ?
6. Retirement age of ICs should be 58 years. 
7. Just like other retired persons, retired IC only get pension - no other perquisites.
7. No retired Babus are brought in to work as the SIC/CIC staff/officers.

I am also willing to pay Rs. 100 per first appeal, provided:

1. Penalty of Rs. 100 per day on the FAA for every day delay in conducting hearing beyond mandated 30 days

In short I will pay, provided the IC and the FAA are also responsible for what they do (in most cases what they do not do).


From: Sarbajit Roy <>
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 7:55:16 AM
Subject: Re: [RTI INDIA] Fwd: [rti-times] CIC recommends draft DoPT RTI Rules scrap application fee

Have you considered that there will be a substantial drop in 2nd appeals
if people have to pay to file 2nd appeals. Also the QUALITY of 2nd appeals
will improve once people start learning to pay for it.

What you dont know is that the DoPT has also proposed that the CIC
must be a self funding body earning its keep out of appeal fees and
the penalties it imposes.


On 11/29/10, Abhimanyu <> wrote:
> Rs. 250 for second appeal which sees day light after 6-8 months  but no
> penalty for delay ???
> penalty for delay MUST be compulsory and shall be Rs. 50,000
> wake up RTI activists before its too late .
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:26 PM, veeresh kumar <> wrote:
>> In a bold move which is sure to be widely hailed, the Central
>> Information Commission (CIC) has reportedly recommended to the DoPT
>> that draft RTI Rules be amended to do away with the application fee
>> which is to accompany the RTI request.
>> The CIC has also recommended that upto 5 pages of photocopied
>> information may be provided free of cost to the applicants.
>> The other recommendations include,
>> 3) Beyond 5 pages and upto 20 pages Rs.2 per page copying charge
>> 4) Beyond 20 pages Rs.5 per page
>> 5) A maximum limit of 99 pages of copied information per RTI request.
>> 6) Fee of Rs. 50 for filing a first appeal
>> 7) Fee of Rs 250 for filing a second appeal to Central Information
>> Commission.
>> Informed sources claim the recommendations were approved by the
>> majority of Information Commissioners, with ICs Shailesh Gandhi and
>> Annapurna Dixit dissenting.

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