Re: [RTI INDIA] Fwd: [rti-times] CIC recommends draft DoPT RTI Rules scrap application fee

Plz upload that HC verdict if u have sarbajit plz

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:58 AM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:

Please don't speculate or discuss hypotheticals

1) Is there any bar on him giving a funny reply at present.
2) Is there any check if the FAA gives a funny decision upholding the
funny reply of his junior officer (PIO) at present.

For compulsory penalty. Best decision so far is Delhi High Court in
Muzub-ur-Rehman's case - use it. When Hon'ble Court has spoken who am
I to say anything ?

Sarbajit

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Abhimanyu <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com> wrote:
> what if PIO gives funny reply to my free RTI application ??
>
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> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:44 AM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 1) You can file AS MANY free RTIs as you want - each targeted to get
>> upto about 20 pages.
>>
>> 2) The FREE complaint route is open
>>
>> 3) You have never experienced the Delhi RTI Act. Its salient features
>> - No Penalties, Info at Rs 5 per page, Rs 25 RTI application fee, Rs
>> 50 First Appeal fee and so on... All of us RTI haramis (me,
>> Parivartan, Delhi RTI Munch, ) cut our teeth on that Act, and believe
>> me I got MUCH more info out of that Act (because of Ms Shailaja
>> Chandra) than Mr. Habibullah's corrupt little RTI circus.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Abhimanyu <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > 5 pages free ??? come on dear sarbajit. PIO's will simply not give any
>> > information fully knowing that first appeal and second appeals will be
>> > costly on applicants pocket hence they will not go for appeals .
>> >
>> > RTI must be totally free
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:37 AM, sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You can have as much free info as you want --> so long as it fits into
>> >> 5
>> >> pages.
>> >>
>> >> "Let them have any color car they want so long as it is black"
>> >> - Henry Ford (manufacturer of the Model-T)
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Abhimanyu
>> >> <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > why you want seconds appeals quantity should drop ???
>> >> > let more and more people seek free information .
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Abhimanyu
>> >> > <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rti IS ON OXYGEN NOW .
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  Very soon RTI will die.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> RTI  aplication , first appeal and second appeal all should be free.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> pages supplied shall also be free.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> after all all money belongs to citizen
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Sidharth Misra
>> >> >> <sidharthbbsr@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I fear, that may create a bidding war if appellants are allowed to
>> >> >>> pay(bid) for how much they can pay & what services they want in
>> >> >>> return
>> >> >>> !
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> What about lesser mortals  ?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> sidharth
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 29 November 2010 04:55, C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I am willing to pay Rs. 500.00 per second appeal (and even a
>> >> >>>> complaint)
>> >> >>>> provided:
>> >> >>>> 1. The penalty under Sec 20(1) is made mandatory in every case
>> >> >>>>     (If no penalty, the IC is fined Rs 25,000)
>> >> >>>> 2. The appellant / complainant is made a party to the the penalty
>> >> >>>> proceedings in each and every case
>> >> >>>> 3. The ICs do not keep any appeal / complaint pending beyond 90
>> >> >>>> days
>> >> >>>> of
>> >> >>>> receipt in SIC/CIC
>> >> >>>>     (For every day delay in the hearing beyond 90 days - the IC
>> >> >>>> pays
>> >> >>>> Rs.
>> >> >>>> 50 per day to the appellant)
>> >> >>>> 4. The time limit to pronounce an order, after the hearing is
>> >> >>>> completed,
>> >> >>>> is clearly specified. For each day of delay beyond the specified
>> >> >>>> time, the
>> >> >>>> IC pays Rs. 100 per day to the applicant.
>> >> >>>> 5. The fees collected by the SIC/CIC do not go towards the payment
>> >> >>>> of
>> >> >>>> salaries and other benefits of the ICs - the government appointed
>> >> >>>> them, let
>> >> >>>> the government pay them. Why should I pay someone and also suffer
>> >> >>>> him/her ?
>> >> >>>> 6. Retirement age of ICs should be 58 years.
>> >> >>>> 7. Just like other retired persons, retired IC only get pension -
>> >> >>>> no
>> >> >>>> other perquisites.
>> >> >>>> 7. No retired Babus are brought in to work as the SIC/CIC
>> >> >>>> staff/officers.
>> >> >>>> I am also willing to pay Rs. 100 per first appeal, provided:
>> >> >>>> 1. Penalty of Rs. 100 per day on the FAA for every day delay in
>> >> >>>> conducting hearing beyond mandated 30 days
>> >> >>>> In short I will pay, provided the IC and the FAA are also
>> >> >>>> responsible
>> >> >>>> for what they do (in most cases what they do not do).
>> >> >>>> RTIwanted
>> >> >>>> ________________________________
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