Re: [rti_india] Re: Complaint of misbehaviour against cic inforamation commissioner AN TIWARI [2

Friday, August 20, 2010

Re: [rti_india] Re: Complaint of misbehaviour against cic inforamation commissioner AN TIWARI [2

Dear Sarbajitji,

I am confused by the last para of your mail "where is it written in RTI Act that decisions of the CIC are to be published on the internet (computer network) so that the whole world can read them ?."

Do you mean that we are not entitled to decisions delivered by Information Commissioners and if that is so, why the judgements of High Courts and Apex Court are uploaded? RTI Act is intended to facilitate information which were / are under cover and if the decisions of Information commissioners, are kept under cover and not uploaded as it is not in the statute, then how we are going to get information about descisions delivered by Information Commissioner.

The decisions delivered by Shri AN Tiwari in my cases have not been uploaded and link can't be provided. It is observed that decisions regarding others have also not been uploaded. I have filed more than 50 application under RTI since then, but CPIO and or FAA deny the information ignoring judgement BUT, it is a fact that the CPIOs and FAAs of department deny information under Section 8 without giving reasons and in appeals FAAs confirm the decision of CPIOs. This is delibereately done as they know that no penal action under Section 20 (1) is going to be taken against them by ANT.

Whistleblowers like me who have faced a lot including murder of own brothers, feel dejected by the attitude of ANT, when he pounce on us during video conferencing and threaten us. Is he empowered to threwten us who are victim of corrupts in the department and want to use RTI to expose them and thus redress our grieavances?

With warm regards
VB Singh
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." - Albert Einstein

--- On Fri, 20/8/10, sarbajitr <sroy1947@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: sarbajitr <sroy1947@yahoo.com>
Subject: [rti_india] Re: Complaint of misbehaviour against cic inforamation commissioner AN TIWARI [2
To: rti_india@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 August, 2010, 4:02 PM

Dear Vijay

My intentions insofar as the RTI_India e-group is concerned are
publicly accessible.
http://old.nabble.com/Important-Announcement-to29279795.html#a29279795

quote:

"primary purpose of this group is to facilitate information exchange between the stakeholders in RTI process, so that responsible citizen users get maximum information in RTI without delay, and that PIOs and FAAs deny maximum information to irresponsible applicants / appellants without fear of penalty.

The secondary (but equally important) purpose is to expose all the
'harami' RTI activists, and Information Commissioners who are killing
the RTI movement to the detriment of responsible RTI users."

PS: If you have specific problems with orders of Mr Tiwari in your cases, please post the links, so that we can analyse the problem.

Sarbajit

--- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com, VB Singh <vijay_bsingh@...> wrote:
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> It is not understood� what are the intentions of� Sarbajit
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> VB Singh
> "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." - Albert Einstein
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> --- On Thu, 19/8/10, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@...> wrote:
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> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@...>
> Subject: Re: [rti_india] Re: Complaint of misbehaviour against cic inforamation commissioner AN TIWARI [2
> To: rti_india@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 10:21 PM
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> Dear Satishji
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> 1) The very fact that you are a member of this group means that you are not a common information seeker. Conversely if after so many years here you still feel that you are a common information seeker then obviously we have failed.
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> 2) Common information seekers will have no problems using RTI Act if they ask for common (ordinary) information, in fact ICs go out of their way to assist such people - as one IC says "aapko aam khaana hain ya gutli ginna hain" going out of their way to use the moral power of their office to help ordinary people to achieve results even if it means going beyond RTI� .The problems start when so-called common information seekers start using RTI to settle scores, rake up dead personal issues, to "fight" corruption, to do low intensity social reform, to blackmail etc etc. The Information Commissioners are not fools and identify� such people within a minute. In such situations, the ICs must assist the P/A (PIOs) to ensure that the letter and spirit of the RTI Act is adhered to insofar as exempted information is not given to undeserving (not acting in larger public interest) applicants.
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> 3) IC ANT is actually one of the most honest ICs, and this is what makes him so universally (un)appreciated. Many people would be very happy if he was not there so that corrupt, legally bankrupt and dishonest decisions are given (as some of the other ICs are doing). and the institution of the CIC is thereby weakened. Privately even Mr Habibullah's staff who have been with him for many years admit that Mr H is not a patch on Mr Tiwari insofar as procedure and respect is concerned.
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> 4) Lastly, where is it written in RTI Act that decisions of the CIC are to be published on the internet (computer network) so that the whole world can read them ?. (Read this statement carefully). Our other star finalist in the poll IC(MLS) has also started pulling his decisions off the CIC website. This is also proving to be a blessing to citizens who are getting fed up with receiving huge quantities of SPAM from foreign financed spies.
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> Sarbajit
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