Monday, October 25, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] PMK1504

Dear Burney

a) The email you have denied was definitely written and sent by you.
b) You (ie. "seniorjourno@yahoo.co") are a member of the HJ googlegroup.
c) The activists who have questioned the credibility of the HJ googlegroup have
no credibility themselves and have no standing to invoke Masterji's name
or to speak on his behalf like we do.
d) As owners of HJ group we had made certain statements directed to you
which you have avoided responding to. We shall put some more queries
which you, as founding member of HJ, can better answer.

A) Who is Vishal Kudchadkar and who made him a moderator ?
Who are the persons who are posting messages in name of
"vishalkudchadkar" in the HJ yahoogroup, idenetical copies of
which are being posted upto 48 hours earlier in the HJ googlegroup?
B) Who are the actual owners of HJ Yahoogroup today ?
C) Why are all the messages posted to HJ Yahoogroup first sent to
another (secret) mailing list and approved by persons (none of whom
are the "official" moderators of HJ yahoogroup) before being posted to
HJ yahoogroup ? Why are you shy to disclose the names of these persons ?
D) Who are the persons who dictate to Vishal Kudchadkar which
news items should be posted to HJ yahoogroup and which are to
be suppressed.
E) Do you believe that groups like HJ should be moderated and
censored and controlled by hidden forces or should there be full freedom
and transparency like Masterji desired ?

PMK1504

On 10/26/10, Shahid Burney <seniorjourno@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Below email was not sent by me. It's all misleading and mischief as can be
> seen. This email is with my name as Shahid Burney
> <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com. I am not a member of the HJ google group and
> explained that I will remain with my original HJ yahoo group. How can a
> person under his own identity send a email against himself ? It's fudging.
>
> I don't need a certificate to prove my statement. But this kind of acts are
> dishonest and mischievous act. I consider these acts as spam.
>
> Several activist here have questioned the credibility of the HJ google group
> and asked details of the same, which has not been given. I hope they do the
> same.
>
> --- On Mon, 10/25/10, Shahid Burney <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Shahid Burney <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com>
> Subject: [HumJanenge] PMK1504
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 10:52 AM
>
> [[Moderator's notes:
>
> a) Mr Burney has not been added to google group with PMK1504 id.
> b) Mr Burney was not the first founding member of Hum Janenge
> at least not under his real name - and which is not whistleblower786).
> c) Mr Burney would recall that after Masterji's demise there were 9
> moderators of the HumJanenge yahoo group.
> d) Mr Burney cannot deny that soon after Masterji's demise a certain
> moderator removed the 5 other moderators who were not enjoying
> "owner" status at HumJanenege and tried to convert it into his private
> group..
> e) Mr Burney cannot deny that repeated efforts of the coterie for
> induction of Mrs Rahul (Twinkle) despite her protest is against the
> letter and spirit of Masterji's ideals.
> f) There is no question of misleading by PMK1504. This group HJ(google)
> is fully dedicated to PMK thoughts and ideals, and opposed to
> all the false moderators who have allowed Masterji's group to
> perish away
>
> HJ owner.]]
>
>
> I have been added to the humjanenge google groups with PMK1504 id
> without my consent. I am the first founding member of Hum Janenge
> yahoo group and would continue with it.
>
> Secondly, the late Mr. Prakash Murlidhar Kardaley (PMK) had a email
> address as PMK1504@gmail.com, and this email has become defunct after
> his sad demise. So, some one is misleading with the first wordings
> PMK1504 and then adding google groups address to it, not gmail.
>
> I think Vinita Deshmukh would be in a better position to explain all this
> mess.
>
> Shahid
>
>
>
>

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