Wednesday, October 27, 2010

RE: [RTI INDIA] Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation

Please remove my name from the vMailing list. Thanks

 

From: rti_india@googlegroups.com [mailto:rti_india@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bimal khemani
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:35 AM
To: rti_india@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RTI INDIA] Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation

 

     साथियो

आप सभी को मेल से संपर्क किया था , कल कुछ साथिओ  से फोन पर भी बाते हुई
आज लखनऊ में डा. नीरज कुमार ने भी लखनऊ और आस पास के कुछ साथियो से संपर्क किया
सभी का यही मत प्राप्त हुवा की  प्रदेश के आर टी आई कार्यकर्ताओं की बैठक आगामी दिनांक ३० अक्तूबर २०१०
प्रातः १० बजे से ३१ अक्तूबर  २०१० दोपहर २.०० बजे तक अलीगढ में ही बुलाई जाये
मुझे हर्ष है की आप लोगो ने मुझे आतिथ्य का अवसर प्रदान किया और अलीगढ की सरजमीं पर हम कुछ ठोस
 निर्णय करके अपने अपने क्षेत्र में एक नई बुलंदी के साथ कार्य प्रारम्भ करेंगे
बैठक की कार्य सूची निम्नवत प्रस्तावित है 
३०-१०-२०१० प्रातः १० से १२ बजे तक आगमन और रजिस्ट्रेशन
                           १२ से ०१ बजे तक भोजन
                           ०१ से ०४ बजे तक सभी का परिचय एवं संक्षिप्त कार्य विवरण
                           ०४ से ०५ बजे तक स्वल्पाहार
                           ०५ से ०८ बजे तक विचार विमर्श
                          रात्री   ०८ बजे भोजन एवं विश्राम
३१-१०-२०१० प्रातः ८.०० बजे से स्वल्पाहार
                           ९.०० बजे से १२/१ बजे तक विचार विमर्श एवं भविष्य की योजना का अंतिम रूप
                           १.०० बजे से भोजन एवं विसर्जन
 
सभी आगंतुक साथियो से निवेदन है की अपना संक्षिप्त परिचय एवं कार्य के बारे संक्षिप्त विवरण लिखित रूप में
कम से कम ५० / ६०  प्रतिया अवश्य लाये
जैसा की प्रथम मेल में लिखा था सभी आगंतुक  साथियो द्वारा  सभी व्यवस्थाओं हेंतु शुल्क के तौर पर रु.१२५/-  देय होगा 

Bimal Khemani

RTI activist

ALIGARH-202001

INDIA

Mob:935-972-4625



--- On Wed, 27/10/10, Hari Goyal <rtidwarka@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


From: Hari Goyal <rtidwarka@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [RTI INDIA] Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
To: rti_india@googlegroups.com
Cc: sknangia2004@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 8:43 PM

Dear Nangia Sahib,  

 

 Thanks for your educative response. We are to continue our fight gor the success of RTI Act, 2005 and against corruption (another issue very dear to my heart) . Despite writing so many times to Chief Information Commissioner, one order of Shri M. L sharma, IC dated 31.03.2009 in not being implemented by the Delhi Development Authority. CIC is helpless. We do expect more from Mr. Shailesh Gandhi who is making his best effort to clear the backlog and is considered Number One by the staff in CIC. But in this hurry, he has no time to see whether the information being given by the PIO is the relevant one or not. PIOs of RCS office have understood him completely and come wth the reply that information has been brought and shall be given to the appellant. SG disposes of the file without seeing whether the information brought is relevant to the one sought in the RTI application. This is just to share my experience with you. Our fight continues.  

 

 With best wishes and regards,

 

 Hari Goyal

Indian Economic Service (1968 Batch)

former Professor of Economics in LBS NAA, Mussoorie (U.P.)

From: suresh nangia <sknangia2004@yahoo.com>
To: rti_india@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 27 October, 2010 12:19:31 PM
Subject: RE: [RTI INDIA] Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation

Dear Mr Goyal

 

         I am aware of the penalties imposed by IC Shailesh Gandhi I too have  been making extensive use of RTI and getting penalties imposed on non-compliant PIOs right from the days of Maharashtra Right to Information Act. What was interesting in this case was that in one given appeal case matter, 6 deemed PIOs have attracted penalty.As per my information, this was a unique case where so many penalties were imposed. That was the reason for my putting   this case on rti board.   Thanks for responding

 

    With regards

 

S K NANGIA           

--- On Tue, 26/10/10, Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [RTI INDIA] Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
To: rti_india@googlegroups.com
Cc: sknangia2004@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, 26 October, 2010, 6:08 PM

Dear Mr. NANGIA,
 
It is not a new development. In the last five years, in reply to my RTI application, Central Information Commission has given information of 408 cases in which penalty was imposed. I find a large number of cases in which deemed PIO's have been penalised by Shri Shailesh Gandhi, Central Information Commissioner, who earlier was hesitant to impose penalty on Delhi Government Officials. However,  the point is if ICs start imposing penalty, some improvement in the system can be expected.
 
Hari Goyal
(Prof. Hari Dev Goyal)
haridgoyal@hotmail.com


 

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:47:19 -0700
From: sknangia2004@yahoo.com
Subject: [RTI INDIA] Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
To: rti_india@googlegroups.com



--- On Mon, 25/10/10, suresh nangia <sknangia2004@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: suresh nangia <sknangia2004@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
To: HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in
Date: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 11:08 PM

Dear All

 

      On goind through IC's Order, it is observed that 6 Officials who have attracted penallty in this case are all Deemed PIOs & Sanitary Superintendants of various zones in Delhi. It is a classic case where deemed PIOs have been penalised for causing delay in providing information (as per Sec 5(5) of the Act}.and it should be seen as a trend setting Order.    

 

      Facts of the case as gleaned through the Order are as follows.

 

       Applicant had filed his application on 11.02.10. As per provision of Sec 7(1) information was required to be provided to him by 11.03.10. Information requisitioned was held with different zones and it needed to be collected from different ends. PIO who had  received the application, sought the assistance of Sanitary Superintendants (SS) of different zones as per provision of Sec  5(4) of the Act for providing the requisite informataion.He forwarded copy of application to all SS on 18.02.10 and on receiving no response from any end, he followed up this with reminders to all sent on 04.03.10. None of the SS responded with information. They responded after 7 months in September, 2010 after the matter had reached CIC after going through FAA channel in the interregnum. None of SS could   explain reasons for not responding to PIO's reference in time. Quoting Sec 19(5) of the Act which states that in any appeal proceedings, the onus to prove that denial of a request was justified shall be on PIO who has denied the request, and finding no reasonable cause for the delay, IC imposed penalty on deemed PIOs for delay of over 100 days as per provision of Sec 5(5). One SS pleaded that he was given an impression by his junior assistant that requisite information has already been sent to PIO, which explanation appeared to be a lame excuse. IC has directed him to bring the concerned junior to appear before the Commission, and if his deposition is not corraborated by the junior before the Commission, further  action may be taken against him. This should be an eye opener word of caution who cook up fake excuses to defend their in-action / willful delays.

 

S K NANGIA  

--- On Sun, 24/10/10, vishalkudchadkar <v_kudz@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: vishalkudchadkar <v_kudz@yahoo.com>
Subject: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
To: HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in
Date: Sunday, 24 October, 2010, 4:50 AM

 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/6-officials-told-to-pay-25k-for-RTI-violation/articleshow/6800507.cms#ixzz13E8lgssX

The Central Information Commission (CIC) has slapped the maximum penalty ever on any agency at one time by directing six MCD officials to cough up Rs 25,000 each for withholding information related to transfer of staff. These errant MCD officers will have to pay Rs 1.5 lakh for a 100-day delay in providing information under the RTI Act.

Noting the delay in disclosure of information, information commissioner Shailesh Gandhi said, "Since the delay in providing the information has been over 100 days, the Commission is passing an order penalising all six officers Rs 25,000 which is the maximum penalty in the Act."

The applicant Ravi Bhushan Bali had in February 2010 asked for information related to direct recruitment, ad-hoc promotion and regular promotion of 13 officers. Bali has also asked details of how many officials had been transferred from DDA to MCD and under what terms and conditions. He also sought information on the status of his own promotion that has been pending before a higher authority.

In his reply in April 2010, MCD PIO had argued that the department was still in the process of collecting the information but could not provide the relevant facts. In fact, it was only after a rap on the knuckles by the CIC in September that the municipal corporation provided Bali with service books of all the sanitary superintendents and allowed the applicant inspection of the relevant files.

Arguing that the Commission was obliged to levy a penalty if it found that information had not been furnished without reasonable cause, Gandhi in his order said no reasonable cause for delay had been cited in this particular case.

He has asked the MCD commissioner to recover Rs 25,000 each from the salary of sanitary superintendents Nand Lal (south zone), Rajendra Prasad (south zone), Raj Pal Singh (SP zone), Om Prakash (Najafgarh zone), Ravinder Rai (west zone) and Naresh Kumar (central zone). An amount of Rs 5,000 will be deducted from their monthly salary.

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