Wednesday, October 27, 2010

[RTI INDIA] Re: Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation

Dear Sir (Bimal Khemani)

You are again in violation of group rules
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rti_india/message/1108

I am therefore booting you off this group and also for soliciting
funds from our members over group resources.

Sarbajit

On Oct 27, 6:04 pm, bimal khemani <bimal.khem...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> साथियो
> आप सभी को मेल से संपर्क किया था , कल कुछ साथिओ से फोन पर भी बाते हुई
> आज लखनऊ में डा. नीरज कुमार ने भी लखनऊ और आस पास के कुछ साथियो से संपर्क किया
> सभी का यही मत प्राप्त हुवा की प्रदेश के आर टी आई कार्यकर्ताओं की बैठक आगामी दिनांक ३० अक्तूबर २०१०
> प्रातः १० बजे से ३१ अक्तूबर २०१० दोपहर २.०० बजे तक अलीगढ में ही बुलाई जाये
> मुझे हर्ष है की आप लोगो ने मुझे आतिथ्य का अवसर प्रदान किया और अलीगढ की सरजमीं पर हम कुछ ठोस
> निर्णय करके अपने अपने क्षेत्र में एक नई बुलंदी के साथ कार्य प्रारम्भ करेंगे
> बैठक की कार्य सूची निम्नवत प्रस्तावित है
> ३०-१०-२०१० प्रातः १० से १२ बजे तक आगमन और रजिस्ट्रेशन
> १२ से ०१ बजे तक भोजन
> ०१ से ०४ बजे तक सभी का परिचय एवं संक्षिप्त कार्य विवरण
> ०४ से ०५ बजे तक स्वल्पाहार
> ०५ से ०८ बजे तक विचार विमर्श
> रात्री ०८ बजे भोजन एवं विश्राम
> ३१-१०-२०१० प्रातः ८.०० बजे से स्वल्पाहार
> ९.०० बजे से १२/१ बजे तक विचार विमर्श एवं भविष्य की योजना का अंतिम रूप
> १.०० बजे से भोजन एवं विसर्जन
>
> सभी आगंतुक साथियो से निवेदन है की अपना संक्षिप्त परिचय एवं कार्य के बारे संक्षिप्त विवरण लिखित रूप में
> कम से कम ५० / ६० प्रतिया अवश्य लाये
> जैसा की प्रथम मेल में लिखा था सभी आगंतुक साथियो द्वारा सभी व्यवस्थाओं हेंतु शुल्क के तौर पर रु.१२५/- देय होगा
>
> Bimal Khemani
> RTI activist
> ALIGARH-202001
> INDIA
> Mob:935-972-4625
>
> --- On Wed, 27/10/10, Hari Goyal <rtidwa...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> From: Hari Goyal <rtidwa...@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [RTI INDIA] Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
> To: rti_india@googlegroups.com
> Cc: sknangia2...@yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 8:43 PM
>
> Dear Nangia Sahib,
>
> Thanks for your educative response. We are to continue our fight gor the success of RTI Act, 2005 and against corruption (another issue very dear to my heart) . Despite writing so many times to Chief Information Commissioner, one order of Shri M. L sharma, IC dated 31.03.2009 in not being implemented by the Delhi Development Authority. CIC is helpless. We do expect more from Mr. Shailesh Gandhi who is making his best effort to clear the backlog and is considered Number One by the staff in CIC. But in this hurry, he has no time to see whether the information being given by the PIO is the relevant one or not. PIOs of RCS office have understood him completely and come wth the reply that information has been brought and shall be given to the appellant. SG disposes of the file without seeing whether the information brought is relevant to the one sought in the RTI application. This is just to share my experience with you. Our fight continues.
>
> With best wishes and regards,
>
> Hari Goyal
> Indian Economic Service (1968 Batch)
> former Professor of Economics in LBS NAA, Mussoorie (U.P.)
>
> From: suresh nangia <sknangia2...@yahoo.com>
> To: rti_india@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 27 October, 2010 12:19:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [RTI INDIA] Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
>
> Dear Mr Goyal
>
> I am aware of the penalties imposed by IC Shailesh Gandhi I too have been making extensive use of RTI and getting penalties imposed on non-compliant PIOs right from the days of Maharashtra Right to Information Act. What was interesting in this case was that in one given appeal case matter, 6 deemed PIOs have attracted penalty.As per my information, this was a unique case where so many penalties were imposed. That was the reason for my putting this case on rti board. Thanks for responding
>
> With regards
>
> S K NANGIA
>
> --- On Tue, 26/10/10, Hari Goyal <haridgo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Hari Goyal <haridgo...@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [RTI INDIA] Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
> To: rti_india@googlegroups.com
> Cc: sknangia2...@yahoo.com
> Date: Tuesday, 26 October, 2010, 6:08 PM
>
> Dear Mr. NANGIA,
>
> It is not a new development. In the last five years, in reply to my RTI application, Central Information Commission has given information of 408 cases in which penalty was imposed. I find a large number of cases in which deemed PIO's have been penalised by Shri Shailesh Gandhi, Central Information Commissioner, who earlier was hesitant to impose penalty on Delhi Government Officials. However, the point is if ICs start imposing penalty, some improvement in the system can be expected.
>
> Hari Goyal
> (Prof. Hari Dev Goyal)
> haridgo...@hotmail.com
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:47:19 -0700
> From: sknangia2...@yahoo.com
> Subject: [RTI INDIA] Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
> To: rti_india@googlegroups.com
>
> --- On Mon, 25/10/10, suresh nangia <sknangia2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: suresh nangia <sknangia2...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
> To: HumJane...@yahoogroups.co.in
> Date: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 11:08 PM
>
> Dear All
>
> On goind through IC's Order, it is observed that 6 Officials who have attracted penallty in this case are all Deemed PIOs & Sanitary Superintendants of various zones in Delhi. It is a classic case where deemed PIOs have been penalised for causing delay in providing information (as per Sec 5(5) of the Act}.and it should be seen as a trend setting Order.
>
> Facts of the case as gleaned through the Order are as follows.
>
> Applicant had filed his application on 11.02.10. As per provision of Sec 7(1) information was required to be provided to him by 11.03.10. Information requisitioned was held with different zones and it needed to be collected from different ends. PIO who had received the application, sought the assistance of Sanitary Superintendants (SS) of different zones as per provision of Sec 5(4) of the Act for providing the requisite informataion.He forwarded copy of application to all SS on 18.02.10 and on receiving no response from any end, he followed up this with reminders to all sent on 04.03.10. None of the SS responded with information. They responded after 7 months in September, 2010 after the matter had reached CIC after going through FAA channel in the interregnum. None of SS could explain reasons for not responding to PIO's reference in time. Quoting Sec 19(5) of the Act which states that in any appeal proceedings, the onus to
> prove that denial of a request was justified shall be on PIO who has denied the request, and finding no reasonable cause for the delay, IC imposed penalty on deemed PIOs for delay of over 100 days as per provision of Sec 5(5). One SS pleaded that he was given an impression by his junior assistant that requisite information has already been sent to PIO, which explanation appeared to be a lame excuse. IC has directed him to bring the concerned junior to appear before the Commission, and if his deposition is not corraborated by the junior before the Commission, further action may be taken against him. This should be an eye opener word of caution who cook up fake excuses to defend their in-action / willful delays.
>
> S K NANGIA
>
> --- On Sun, 24/10/10, vishalkudchadkar <v_k...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: vishalkudchadkar <v_k...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [HumJanenge] 6 officials told to pay 25k for RTI violation
> To: HumJane...@yahoogroups.co.in
> Date: Sunday, 24 October, 2010, 4:50 AM
>
>
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/6-officials-told-to-pay-25k-...
>
> The Central Information Commission (CIC) has slapped the maximum penalty ever on any agency at one time by directing six MCD officials to cough up Rs 25,000 each for withholding information related to transfer of staff. These errant MCD officers will have to pay Rs 1.5 lakh for a 100-day delay in providing information under the RTI Act.
>
> Noting the delay in disclosure of information, information commissioner ...
>
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