Sunday, December 27, 2009

[rti_india] Re: RTI on Haj

 

Sarabjit ji,

1) This has nothing to do with religion & politics. This RTI was after reading in the newspaper about long waiting list of RTI applicants. In fact the newspaper cutting was attached to my RTI application.

2) I do not think anyone can dictate to anybody what RTIs he/she should file. It is upto a person & his curisoty about any matter under the sun.

3) The RTI was marked to GAD of Maharashtra & they have marked to the concerned people. It is for GAD to decide which dept they should forward it to under section 6(3).

4)- Noted.

5)Thanks for the info.
It is upto you. If it is a threat you are giving I think you have chosen a wrong person to issue threats to.

Anyway I myself will stop posting on this group.

Thanks & Rgds
Ajay Marathe

--- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com, "sarbajitr" <sroy1947@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Ajay,
>
> 1) We try to keep religion and politics off this group.
>
> 2) We also prefer that RTIs / replies received uploaded to
> this group concern section 4 disclosure (albeit via a section
> 6 as last resort) which benefits everyone
>
> 3) Insofar as your RTI application is concerned, you have
> not applied to the proper Public Authority. You should have
> first ascertained which P/A disclosed the "Haj Committee"
> in its section 4 disclosure. You should also be aware that
> there are State Level Haj Committees constituted under the
> "Haj Act". So you should clarify to us if the info you
> received pertains to Maharashtra only.
>
> 4) As a public spirited RTIer you ought to have gone after
> this link http://minorityaffairs.gov.in/newsite/rti/Chapter7.pdf
>
> 5) Finally, I have received a complaint against you from that
> veteran RTI expert "S D Sharma" asking that you be booted off
> this group since (as per your previous post) you are a professional
> RTIer acting at the behest of foreign forces.
>
> PS: The AA has cleverly limited you to only airfare subsidy, and
> evaded the core of your request - "the govt expenditure on the same"
>
> To All: Please remember that if you upload your RTIs and their
> replies here to this group, you are setting an example to others.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> --- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com, ajay marathe <marathe.ajay@> wrote:
> >
> > RTI on Haj
> >
> > Info asked & recd
> >
> > 1) Year wise no of Indians who went to Haj pilgrimage & the govt
> > expenditure on the same.( from year 2000 to 2009)
> >
> > 2) Criteria used for selecting the persons to be sent for Haj from the
> > list of applicants
> >
> > Info recd from Haj Committee, Haj House, Mumbai
> >
> > Year / Pilgrims Proceeded / Expenses incurred by Administration
> >
> > 2005 / 80,772 / Nil
> >
> > 2006-I / 99,660 / Nil
> >
> > 2006-II / 1,08,816 / Nil
> >
> > 2007 / 1,10,415 / Nil
> >
> > 2008 / 1,21,787 / Nil
> >
> > Haj committee of India confirms Wait – listed Haj applications against the
> > cancellation of recd from Haj Pilgrims.
> >
> > I went into appeal stating that expenses cannot be Nil. It is known that
> > Govt gives subsidy for Haj Pilgrimage. Criteria for selection is not given.
> >
> > PIO ( & not AA) wrote back to me informing that amount of subsidy given by
> > GOI is not known to their office. It is directly paid by GOI to Air India.
> > However a subsidized airfare of Rs. 12,000/- is charged to from the
> > Pilgrims traveling from various embarkation points to Jeddah / Madinah
> > Munawwarah and back.
> >
> > In the State Haj committee where applications are recd in excess of their
> > quota , then the seats are confirmed to the intending pilgrims through
> > Qurrah( draw of lots)
> >
> > I wrote back ( AA does not come into picture , PIO is only communicating.
> > There is no hearing) arguing that section 6(3) be used for transferring my
> > application about expenditure & also asked details about Qurrah- ie criteria
> > for selection.
> >
> > The application was transferred to Ministry of Civil Aviation, New Delhi .
> > About Quarrah I was informed that Haj Committee of India has developed
> > Web-based software for central solution for this purpose.
> >
> > Yesterday I recd following info from ministry of Civil Aviation
> >
> > The total airfare cost of Haj 2008 operations was Rs. 1,013.39 crores (
> > approx) on 1,21,695 pilgrims . Each pilgrims paid an amount of Rs.12,000/-
> > towards airfare and the balance cost of Rs. 867.32 crores ( approx) is to be
> > borne by the Government.
> >
> > Thanks & Rgds
> >
> > Ajay Marathe
>

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